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    #51
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Wind and solar are much lower in cost than any other way to cut emissions so even with backup and storage systems they will be cost effective.

    EVs can easily store excess renewable electricity.
    Let’s look at it another way, in a previous post I used the example of 3 combines, one solar powered, one wind powered and one diesel powered, all to do the same job but when the weather is right 2 can run without fossil fuel. Let’s be realistic, as a farmer would this lower your cost of production? Not a chance. Is having 3 combines to do the job of one good for the environment? Takes 3 times the raw materials!!! So how can having 3 no I guess 4 if you include storage, electricity generation systems be good for the environment? How can it be more affordable? The answer to both is it can’t!!!

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      #52
      EVs can store electricity to drive with.

      EVs are 80% efficient compared to 20% for ICEs.

      Don't you have more than one vehicle already?

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        #53
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        EVs can store electricity to drive with.

        EVs are 80% efficient compared to 20% for ICEs.

        Don't you have more than one vehicle already?
        Ahh, so like wind and solar, we need 2 vehicles. One EV, and one powered by gasoline for when our car is powering the grid?!?!

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          #54
          You need a mixed basket of energy for reliability. CC is the expert on wind and solar so I’ll leave that there but nuclear is great for baseload as is coal or any such generation involving steam. To handle demand spikes hydro and natural gas are better suited. Anyone with boiler heating in their house will know what I am talking about.

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            #55
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            EVs can store electricity to drive with.

            EVs are 80% efficient compared to 20% for ICEs.

            Don't you have more than one vehicle already?
            Huh? So you're saying an ev would rob electricity from a renewable (limiting it from being used elsewhere, like heating, powering a business, home etc...)
            Which in turn requires more renewables... which in turn requires more back-up and storage?

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              #56
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

              Yes, in all honesty wind production through December was quite good as it was one chinook after another but the problem his when you get stuck in a high pressure system like today. Wind is producing at roughly 1% of rated capacity this morning. Chuck2 in your future world where renewables supply all our power, how many days of storage capacity do you envision?!
              Chuck will never acknowledge this of course.
              But I have provided the real world example of how much storage is needed for uninterrupted solar energy at our latitude.
              Three full months of energy storage is being installed in remote wellsites where solar exclusively is powering the chemical pumps.
              Using Chucks proposed solution, how many EV's would I have to own to power my farm for 3 months?

              Wind power down to 29 MW now. That is .66% of capacity.
              Or for Chuck since he doesn't know how percentages work.
              Full capacity would be 15151.51% higher than right now.
              Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jan 12, 2024, 10:19.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Jordy2323 View Post

                Huh? So you're saying an ev would rob electricity from a renewable (limiting it from being used elsewhere, like heating, powering a business, home etc...)
                Which in turn requires more renewables... which in turn requires more back-up and storage?
                Can you see where this is headed?

                And it is no more irrational than Chuck's plan to import energy from Manitoba. While simultaneously celebrating that Manitoba plans to forsake new hydro and expand renewables.
                When your plan involves everyone borrowing from everyone else, it's not a plan.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                  Thanks German folk for standing up to the madness
                  Subheadline from the wallstreet journal about the protests:

                  Radical environmentalists pioneered aggressive protests — but they didn’t have tractors.

                  It is really scary to think how much power the makers in society actually have if they choose to use it. And how utterly helpless the takers are to do anything about it.

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                    #59
                    2050 !

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                      #60
                      Another percentage question for Chuck since he keeps making these blunders about comparing percentages.
                      Wind power now down to half a percent of name plate capacity. If past cold snaps are any indication, it will likely hit zero at some point. Only 2 wind farms were producing anything, Taber and Jenner.
                      So when wind production hits zero, how many percent more wind farms will Alberta need to meet our consumption? Consumption is currently at 11885 MW.

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