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Why are pickups such a suburban status symbol when few families need that much car?

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    #16
    SIZE matters...

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      #17
      Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
      The looneys will want all Tim Hortons shut down next !
      Yeah Crop, I am betting you have a fat ass and a fat head! Too many Tim Bits!



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        #18
        Originally posted by goalieguy847 View Post
        But chuck you drive a pickup.
        this might be your worst post yet. You drive a pickup!
        Bcuz youre a farmer you deserve less criticism than the next guy based upon where they live and their " vehicle usage"?
        also heres a reason why alot of families drive a pickup.

        Price out a new ford f150 and check out the availability...
        then go price out a new chrysler pacifica ( non 4wd) or a honda minivan ( non 4wd).
        Go price out a toyota sienna ( 4wd minivan) and see how long it takes you to get it. Heck, find one on kijiji with 4wd and good luck at getting it!

        Trucks are simple. Easy. Reliable and safe. Thats why they sell.
        Im not putting my family of 5 with 3 little kids and 2 dogs in anything less than a half ton chassis ( we drive a yukon xl when need be, just like chuck chuck drives his half ton when " need be")

        My madre ( mom) was in a head on collision a couple years ago.. other driver was in a minivan. He did not survive. My mom was in a 4 yr old chev silverado and the only reason she is alive is because of the truck. I went and got some stuff out of it and it was shocking to see what was left of that thing.... ( the rear taillight lenses were shattered from impact... theyre shatterproof plastic)
        You sit higher up and are safer than alot of vehicles on the road today.

        Vehicle safety involves more than just size.

        If size is important how will your truck survive against a semi? So we should all drive semis then?

        There have been several studies that have said that oversized trucks and SUVs are causing more serious crashes because they are too high.

        [url]https://www.consumerreports.org/car-safety/the-hidden-dangers-of-big-trucks/[/url]

        Trucks also have a much higher centre of gravity which increases roll over risk.

        Single vehicle roll overs are one of the most common rural accidents. And guess what. A lot of them involve people who are ejected from the vehicle because they don't wear a seat belt.

        Apparently in the "big safe truck" they think they don't need a seat belt!

        When your kid turns 16 are you going to get them a truck and let them drive on gravel roads. Because a lot of them end up in the ditch because they drive too fast and are inexperienced.

        When I occasionally drive on icy roads especially around Winnipeg, the number of overturned trucks and SUVs is remarkable compared to lower centre of gravity cars.

        So size matters in some types of accidents but not all. So its wrong to say trucks are safer.


        "Trucks Aren’t Always the Safest Option

        Vehicles with more mass should fare better in the event of a collision, and when it comes to trucks and pickups, pros with auto body technician careers know that this is often true. With that in mind, you might expect that the number of fatal crashes that involve pickups is drastically lower than that of cars. However, you would be wrong. According to the IIHS, there’s only a 20 per cent difference in the fatality rates of cars and trucks. Cars still do come in at a higher 60 per cent, but trucks aren’t that far behind, taking in 40 per cent of fatalities.

        According to research by the University of Buffalo, every additional 1,000 pounds of weight on a vehicle reduces the risk of injury in a crash by 19 per cent. With that being said, although pickup trucks are safer in some instances like head-on collisions, there are other factors that can make them dangerous in certain types of accidents.

        For example, many pickup trucks ride much higher off the ground than the average car. While this offers drivers an added feeling of safety, it can actually make trucks more dangerous, as they are prone to rollovers when hit from the side. In addition, drivers in larger vehicles may have a false sense of security. Despite the fact that pickup trucks tend to be more powerful, they don’t necessarily offer superior handling on the rough road conditions that Canada is notorious for."
        Last edited by chuckChuck; Jan 9, 2024, 20:19.

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          #19
          Chuck, you still don't understand how percentages work, do you?
          Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jan 9, 2024, 16:00.

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            #20
            Does BUBBLE wrap help?

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              #21
              Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
              When it comes to the safety of rural drivers and occupiers…. It is exponentially more dangerous in a small EV… than a Diesel SUV . Especially in the Winter in ice and snow. Design is everything in an accident….

              If you or your loved ones are dead or seriously injured…. The better built vehicles…. (As Larry has testified) Save both lives and pain and suffering.

              Many Blessings!
              All the best to everyone in 2024!
              Agree, a neighbor had a collision with an elk a few years back, he was driving a small car. He didn’t survive the crash. If he had been driving a gas guzzling pickup truck he might still be here.

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                #22
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                Chuck, you still don't understand how percentages work, do you?
                What percentages?

                You left us hanging....I can't wait for the full rebuttal from the guy who once said he drives a vw diesel car! But is sure bigger vehicles are always safer?

                Last edited by chuckChuck; Jan 9, 2024, 19:28.

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                  #23
                  From your cut and paste above:
                  According to the IIHS, there’s only a 20 per cent difference in the fatality rates of cars and trucks. Cars still do come in at a higher 60 per cent, but trucks aren’t that far behind, taking in 40 per cent of fatalities.

                  Cars are 50% higher, not 20% as stated.
                  Do you even read the propaganda before you paste it?
                  Never said I drive a VW diesel.
                  I have a beat up compact car that I use for any trip that doesn't require a truck.
                  Or at least I used to. Eldest son slid off the road and hit a massive rock a few days ago. It did more damage than the deer I hit at highway speed a couple of years ago. Along with all the dents from cows and wife.
                  Perhaps all the unrepaired body damage is why it keeps being reported as an abandoned stolen vehicle when I leave it in a field. 3 times already I've had the rcmp call to tell me my car has been found abandoned. Right where I left it.

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                    #24
                    Ok I stand corrected.

                    You drive a small compact car when you don't need a truck. To save gas I assume?

                    Be careful the "smokin" truck drivers will look down on and think you are an eco warrior drivin a compact like that!

                    Deer, rock, cows, wife? Yikes. You might want to put some big rubber tire bumpers on the next one.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Ok I stand corrected.

                      You drive a small compact car when you don't need a truck. To save gas I assume?

                      Be careful the "smokin" truck drivers will look down on and think you are an eco warrior drivin a compact like that!

                      Deer, rock, cows, wife? Yikes. You might want to put some big rubber tire bumpers on the next one.
                      Correction, I haven't actually hit her with the car, but she has a bad habit of backing into things.

                      Thanks for the advice.
                      True story, I was up to over 20 confirmed kills with my first truck(and countless replaced bumpers, grills, radiators, lights), when I put a big bush bumper on it, never hit another animal again.

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                        #26
                        Carbon tax is SUPPOSED to Work by changing Habits. But if you are Stubborn and dont like change they wont work for you

                        I farm and drive my truck rarely and use my suv for running around because it gets high 40 mpg versus my guzzling 1/2 ton

                        Always amazed how many trucks are sitting IDLING in front of the Co-op or post office by the same people who Bitch about gas prices

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by rastafarian View Post
                          Carbon tax is SUPPOSED to Work by changing Habits. But if you are Stubborn and dont like change they wont work for you

                          I farm and drive my truck rarely and use my suv for running around because it gets high 40 mpg versus my guzzling 1/2 ton

                          Always amazed how many trucks are sitting IDLING in front of the Co-op or post office by the same people who Bitch about gas prices
                          Why are you still driving a gas guzzler ? , doesn’t look like carbon tax is working on you ?
                          my baby duramax gets min 30 mpg to max 42 mpg , always 35 hwy

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by rastafarian View Post
                            Carbon tax is SUPPOSED to Work by changing Habits. But if you are Stubborn and dont like change they wont work for you

                            I farm and drive my truck rarely and use my suv for running around because it gets high 40 mpg versus my guzzling 1/2 ton

                            Always amazed how many trucks are sitting IDLING in front of the Co-op or post office by the same people who Bitch about gas prices
                            So do you agree with dirty diesel furnace guys getting a break when your clean NG pays liberal tax ? Do you know what a useful idiot is ?

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by caseih View Post
                              Do you know what a useful idiot is ?
                              If in doubt, please refer to the poster who started this thread for an example.

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                                #30
                                So say the climate change deniers who don't do science!

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