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    #97
    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    Co2 is necessary for plant life, but too much will end animal life.
    At what level of Co2 will we start seeing the cows dieing?

    What about all those dogs in the urban areas?

    Will those poor people have to watch their dogs die a terrible excess Co2 death?
    Last edited by shtferbrains; Mar 13, 2024, 08:55.

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      #98
      It appears that agstar isn't going to respond, so I will generously help him out.
      CO2 is immediately fatal at 10% concentration. That would be 100,000 ppm.
      That is a mere 240 times higher than the current 420 ppm concentration.
      What do you think agstar, do we have enough fossil fuels to accomplish that?

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        #99
        Now I'm SCARED!

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          Aren't you curious why they picked co2 over o2? No vested interest? Funny how they are funded by big oil.

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            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            Aren't you curious why they picked co2 over o2? No vested interest? Funny how they are funded by big oil.
            Thanks for clearing that up.

            Now , WTF are you talking about?

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              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
              Aren't you curious why they picked co2 over o2? No vested interest? Funny how they are funded by big oil.
              Perhaps because there is no war on Oxygen, but there is a declared war against CO2?

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                Originally posted by rumrocks View Post
                https://co2coalition.org/facts/

                Interesting site about C02.
                Strong group of members.
                Excellent site! Facts need to be in public's face, NOT fear mongering lies in MSM. Rotten governments with an agenda. Thanks

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                  The flat earth climate change deniers will, so it seems, never accept the science that proves CO2 from burning fossil fuels causes climate change.

                  They will resort to all kinds of dumbass ideas in their denial.

                  Like A5 they disregard the all the signs of climate change and serious consequences and focus on the very small benefits of increased plant growth that will be offset by higher temperatures and increased frequent drought and heat stress in southern Alberta.

                  We all know CO2 levels are not a limiting factor in crop production in the southern prairies. The limiting factor is moisture.

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                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Like A5 they disregard the all the signs of climate change and serious consequences and focus on the very small benefits of increased plant growth that will be offset by higher temperatures and increased frequent drought and heat stress in southern Alberta.

                    We all know CO2 levels are not a limiting factor in crop production in the southern prairies. The limiting factor is moisture.
                    The scientific literature disagrees with your assertion. See the last sentence in this short cut and paste from Chen et al 2024:

                    The CO2 fertilization effect has been dominant driver of the global-scale increase in “leaf area index” (LAI), or greening, since the 1980s. Scientists have estimated that CO2’s photosynthesis-enhancing capacity is 70% responsible for the greening trend (Zhu et al., 2016 ([url]https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3004[/url])).
                    ....

                    Using much more reliable MODIS data, scientists (Chen et al., 2024 ([url]https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2351989423004262[/url])) can now say the LAI trend in the 21st century is robustly positive, and that 2001-2020 “global greening is an indisputable fact.”

                    The satellite data indicate 55.15% of global areas are greening “at an accelerated rate,” whereas just 7.28% have undergone a browning trend since 2001.

                    CO2 fertilization is still the dominant (75.63%) driver of Earth’s 21st century greening trend. Any drought trends in recent decades cannot overtake the positive CO2 fertilization effect, as all drought can do is slightly slow down the acceleration of the CO2-induced greening trend.

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                      First, start with Co2 contributes to climate change. Causes climate change implies it is the only factor.
                      Cleaning up statements would go a long way towards some believability.

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                        Canada will add a huge share of the land that becomes climatically suitable for growing crops as the world's temperatures rise, a new study says. But the study also finds that growing crops on that land could have many negative environmental impacts — including even more greenhouse gas emissions.

                        Is CBC still a reliable source, Chuck?
                        Because they claim Canada will be a huge winner of global warming. Canada could have 5 times more farmland than we currently do by 2080.
                        Do you think the loss of the Palliser triangle desert (200,000 sq km total, only a fraction of which is arable) would be missed if we add 4.2 million sq km of farmland?

                        Canada will add a huge share of the land that becomes climatically suitable for growing major crops as the world's temperatures continue to rise, a new study suggests.

                        The study, published today in the journal PLOS ONE ([url]https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0228305[/url]), predicts about 4.2 million square kilometres of Canada that are currently too cold for farming crops like wheat will be warm enough by 2080 if greenhouse gas emissions continue to climb.

                        "It may become our bread basket for the future. In that regard, it's good for Canada," said co-author Krishna Bahadur KC, an adjunct professor of geography at the University of Guelph.

                        Currently, only a million square kilometres in Canada are warm enough for growing crops like wheat, corn and potatoes, he said.


                        Does this make CBC a denier organization?

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                          What about this journal study which suggests global farmland could expand by almost a third?
                          Growing conditions for crops such as coffee and wine grapes are shifting to track climate change. Research on these crop responses has focused principally on impacts to food production impacts, but evidence is emerging that they may have serious environmental consequences as well. Recent research has documented potential environmental impacts of shifting cropping patterns, including impacts on water, wildlife, pollinator interaction, carbon storage and nature conservation, on national to global scales. Multiple crops will be moving in response to shifting climatic suitability, and the cumulative environmental effects of these multi-crop shifts at global scales is not known. Here we model for the first time multiple major global commodity crop suitability changes due to climate change, to estimate the impacts of new crop suitability on water, biodiversity and carbon storage. Areas that become newly suitable for one or more crops are Climate-driven Agricultural Frontiers. These frontiers cover an area equivalent to over 30% of the current agricultural land on the planet and have major potential impacts on biodiversity in tropical mountains, on water resources downstream and on carbon storage in high latitude lands. Frontier soils contain up to 177 Gt of C, which might be subject to release, which is the equivalent of over a century of current United States CO2 emissions. Watersheds serving over 1.8 billion people would be impacted by the cultivation of the climate-driven frontiers. Frontiers intersect 19 global biodiversity hotspots and the habitat of 20% of all global restricted range birds. Sound planning and management of climate-driven agricultural frontiers can therefore help reduce globally significant impacts on people, ecosystems and the climate system.


                          Or do you think these models will prove to be a wildly inaccurate as every other model you post, such as climate change, renewable energy, covid, etc?

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