Compensation What do Landowners really want

[cowman]

Oilman: You intrigue me! When you talk about "We are so new...we have not had time to address the reclamation issues:?
Now what "reclamation issues" were those?
The fact is there are NO reclamation issues? Coalbed does not produce any reclamation issues?
They come in, they put down an enviro shield, they drill the well, and they are out of there....what are the "enviro issues"?"
Somehow I am getting a very funny feeling about you my friend!

[cowman]

The give away here really is with cowdogs "sorry for my poor spelling" and oilmans " sorry for my poor spelling"? ...Both the same person?
I am dissappointed. With a great deal of hope we could get a real discussion going on this vital message that needs to be adderessed in the rural community!
Instead we seem to be have been mislead by just another "Rebel without a Cause"!

[coppertop]

Cowman, you cagy old boy, maybe you have ferreted out an imposter !!!! I still have to hand it to oilman for allowing us to provide our concerns regarding the resource industry activities. By the way, cowman, I know a few self made millionaires who likely wouldn't win a spelling bee either !!!!! LOL

[cowman]

coppertop: Believe me when I tell you I know exactly who this old boy is? He isn't a bad boy,just dances to a different drummer? I respect him in his own right! He is a very smart boy...always was probably? I knew his brother quite well?
I believe he has his right to his opinion...and Lord knows mabye he is right? I try not too judge others...because...who knows...maybe I am totally wrong? I wish he would be a little more vague on some of his stuff...I had him "read(I knew how he was)" a long time ago!
His message is important...and I don't want to take away from that! Unfortunetnaly you can't do that sometimes?

[cakadu]

Cowman, my "spidey senses" got going when oilman said that he would like to get away from all the agencies and deal with landowners directly. I may not be entirely pleased with what those agencies do, but they are my only stop gap between myself as landowner and the oil/gas company.

I have no doubt that many landowners, myself included, would have a tough time negotiating with no "safety net" there. We do not deal in the oil industry and are not up on the jargon, business nature of the patch etc., so left to our own devices, we may get even more of a bum rap than is the norm.

At least if we have concerns, they go in front of one of the organizations and they must be dealt with in some fashion - whether they are satisfactory or not is another story.

Call me a cynic, but to give away what we want to see when the resource companies come knocking may just be another way to talk the talk, but not walk it.

One of the things that we have to remember is that they want to get that well drilled with the least amount of time, money and resources expended as possible.

I could be entirely off base, but given what we have had to deal with and the horror stories one hears, one can never be too sure.

[coppertop]

Linda, cowman etc. I too was intrigued by the suggestion that all agencies should be abolished. If the agencies involved are doing what their mandate requires that they do, they are looking after the common good, which means looking out for the best interests of Albertans. Now, oil companies employ a lot of Albertans so the EUB et.al., have a fine line to walk, but doing away with the public interest regulators is certainly a stretch !!!

[cakadu]

I dunno copper, maybe I've watched one too many episodes of X-files or something, but when one's intuition goes off, I think you have to at least listen to it.

I'll be the first to admit I could be wrong and if I am, well then I am.

[cowdog]

Good god you are a bunch of paranoid fools. Unlike the rest of you I have a large successful farm to run, In cold weather like we have been having of late my work load triples and I have recently got movement on my wheat , so I am moving it.
thus I have very little time to be on the internet let alone the site.
Note that my responses tend to be rather long and far between, and that oilman's rather short and close together.

[cowdog]

Oilman: I am preparing a response to your origanal question but, have not had time to finish it, it is long and detailed. I have been asked many times the diffient questions you have asked by CEO's and other executives, so, I am not that suspisous of your identity and respect that you are who you say you are to the same extent I would anyone else in this type of website.
Respond on this thread by this Friday and I will start a new thread called: "Reply to Oilam's Questions." before next Monday unless calves start dropping the it will take longer.

[cakadu]

Cowdog, who you and Oilman are do not matter to me. My concern and quite likely my cynicism come to the fore whenever I hear someone say, "Hi, I'm from....(take your pick about government, industry or what have you)and I'm here to help.

I can agree with you about the cold and the work load increasing. At least for the next few days, it should be a whole lot less work and pretty enjoyable.

Hope the calves are healthy - I know that the lambs are much happier now.

[cowdog]

cakadu: glad to see that not everyone has taken their marbles and gone home.
Oilman's entry in to the debate does not surprise me. Oilman whoever he or she was is someone from the industry frustrated by the resistance of landowners to CBM and the EUB's attitude that only serves to complicate issues. The Surface rights Board is swamped to the point that there is huge waiting lists, therefore it is not unlikely industry would look for ideas where they could find them.
Anyway have a lovely lucky lambing.