Fall COVID-19 vaccine cut illness risk by half overall

[blackpowder]

And there's you posting on Agriville claiming to be a Libertarian while participating in Federal government programs such as CEBA, interest free cash advances, and crop insurance. Oh, forgot your B.S. line you needed it to compete with your neighbors.

Then to top it off bragging about being at the Coutts border blockade preventing Alberta businesses and Alberta citizens from conducting their daily economic business.

Ab5 you're not even close to being Right, let alone a Libertarian.

As for Ukraine, you proved with out a doubt you're pro-Putin in the Tucker thread.

Funny you never mention the Russian's sons and daughter dying in Putin's war, but I guess that's okay with you just as long as it's not your children.

To be libertarian doesn't mean a fool.
Ceba was free for all business.
Cash advance and crop insurance a meager $/ac sum for most. For many, you would be a fool not to have CI.
Ukraine's fate was nearly a given years ago. Despite armchair observation to the contrary.
The game of politics is complicated and messy. But in small grains, Rus/Ukr are kicking our butts and maybe we should be aware of aid dollars to their industry?
CBOT in time will be a price follower not setter.
At least the dairy subsidies are mostly consumer paid rather than completely taxpayer. I guess that makes it ok?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The antivaxers want to go back to a time before vaccines, antibiotics and treatment and public health measures based on scientific evidence!

Like A5 who sounds like he is opposed to mandatory childhood vaccines or any public health measures he disagrees with?

Except A5 and the antivaxers received the benefits of all the vaccines that prevented polio, small pox, and many other diseases. They have such short memories.

Measles, a highly infectious severe childhood disease in some, is back because of lower vaccination rates.

No doubt A5 and the flat earth club will say mandatory vaccines for measles are wrong.

They think probably think infectious disease are up to the individual to manage!
Forgetting that reducing the impact of infectious diseases requires a community effort.

So for covid they chose ivermectin and other snake oil options that don't work instead of vaccines?

The antivaxers win the Darwin award!

Once again, your mind reading skills are sadly lacking. Don't quit your day job to become a clairvoyant.

Do you find this straw man debating tactic to be successful?

Do you find your opponents ever take the bait, and start defending your baseless accusations based on your psychic powers?

Does this ever work to deflect the conversation away from the uncomfortable inconsistencies that your debating partner was bringing to your attention?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[fjlip]

Is this credible?

Hmmmm, what could be the cause? Which is the only mRNA shot?

Or the Canadian stats? I converted these to jpg...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Probably , unless you have an epiphany and realize there is not a left and right here, just sense and nonsense.

If there is no left and right here, what descriptor do you use to describe chuck?
He literally ran as an NDP candidate.
An executive of the NFU.
Has his opinion published in multiple left-leaning publications.
Uses this forum as a soapbox to attack conservative politicians of all stripes. And only conservative politicians.
Outright supports, or at very least refuses to condemn liberal policies or liberal scandals.
Personal attacks and childish name calling against any posters who don't share his views.
Yet you are berating me about left versus right?
Are you quite certain that I am the problem?

[agstar77]

So I won't hold my breath , waiting for you to have an ahaa moment.

[chuckChuck]

Flipper your post is not credible.

And where the hell did Crop slink off to after he posted a fake made up antivaxer poster from Ireland that clearly was not from a credible source. The posters said vaccines can cause sudden death! Only if you have a very severe allergic reaction.

When you post crap lies like crop, you should stay away!

Here's what Irish Health Officials do say about covid vaccines:

From the HSE in Ireland
The HSE is Ireland's public health and social care service.

[url]https://www2.hse.ie/screening-and-vaccinations/covid-19-vaccine/side-effects/[/url]

Safety of COVID-19 vaccines

All vaccines are tested to make sure they are safe and work before they can be used. The HSE only uses a vaccine if it meets the required standards of safety and effectiveness.
You will be offered the vaccine that is most suitable for you.

[chuckChuck]

A5 are you the new leader of Diagolon? You went to their blockade at Coutts. You went to the fundraiser to get your jailed wanna be cop killers out of jail. What other extremists activities are you involved in?

So how is it going making up fictional stories about a poster who doesn't put up with your fake libertarian bullshit?

You really can dish it out but you can't take it can you?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

A5 are you the new leader of Diagolon? You went to their blockade at Coutts. You went to the fundraiser to get your jailed wanna be cop killers out of jail. What other extremists activities are you involved in?

So how is it going making up fictional stories about a poster who doesn't put up with your fake libertarian bullshit?

You really can dish it out but you can't take it can you?

Once again Chuck, your mind reading abilities are dismal.

Why do you persist on inventing baseless accusations, and expecting to deflect the discussion away from yourself?

[foragefarmer]

To be libertarian doesn't mean a fool.
Ceba was free for all business.
Cash advance and crop insurance a meager $/ac sum for most. For many, you would be a fool not to have CI.
Ukraine's fate was nearly a given years ago. Despite armchair observation to the contrary.
The game of politics is complicated and messy. But in small grains, Rus/Ukr are kicking our butts and maybe we should be aware of aid dollars to their industry?
CBOT in time will be a price follower not setter.
At least the dairy subsidies are mostly consumer paid rather than completely taxpayer. I guess that makes it ok?

Libertarian:

"an advocate or supporter of a political philosophy that advocates only minimal state intervention in the free market and the private lives of citizens"


BP, from the the definition the "fool" would be someone who participates in voluntary Federal government programs, and then claims to be a Libertarian while calling others lefties, socialist, etc etc on a social media patform.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And then again I may have overestimated your reasonableness.

It is so fascinating to observe the tribalism and mob mentality on here.
So you and I were actually having a civil discussion and finding some common ground.
Then the easily triggered forage interjected with one of his usual inflammatory, divisive, vitriolic tirades. Which served as a cue to agstar to stop fraternizing with the enemy, and get back on script.
In the absence of that prompt, agstar was actually having a productive conversation.
Thanks to the encouragement from forage, we now return to your regularly scheduled left versus right playground mentality.
Remember when we had some posters such as DML or grassfarmer who could actually take the other side of a debate without devolving into this childish game of insults every time?

Edit to add that this is obviously not strictly limited to one side or the other. See this happening on the other side as well, for example as we all pile on against chucks latest indiscretions.

[blackpowder]

Yes Forage, that is one of the definitions. Perhaps then the absolutist is the fool. Only one of those on here.

[fjlip]

"Flipper your post is not credible."

Why not? CDC, Vaers, NVICP?

StatsCan?

Why the 5 fold increase in unspecified causes? really stinks