With Alberta renewables ban, business common sense goes out the window

[LEP]

The LCOE by Lazard clearly shows renewables are the lowest cost option for new capacity. [url]https://www.lazard.com/research-insights/levelized-cost-of-energyplus/[/url]

A range of 1200 km? Huh? How many ICE vehicles have that range? Very few.

We have a plug in hybrid and the cost of the EV miles are near half that of gas. 80% efficient vs 20% for ICE.

The oil and gas industry has been and continues to be subsidized with low royalty rates and incentives to attract investment and development. And they have not paid their way as far as cleanup which is another subsidy.

The owners of the resource are getting a relatively small amount of the value of the resource when compared with other oil producing countries. More of the wealth is transferred to shareholders than needs to be. Even Danny Williams a conservative got a bigger share for Newfoundland.

So why is Alberta so bad at managing its resource revenue? Because they let the oil companies dictate the terms of development instead of extracting the maximum rent possible why still allowing for a reasonable profit.

OPEC has been controlling supply for decades keeping excess wealth flowing from consumers to producers. The oil companies have benefited from the Saudi OPEC oil cartel.

My f150 regularly gets over 1100 km per tank.

Is it chuck math or how does a vehicle that is 80% efficient cost only half as much as one that is 20%?? Is the cost of the vehicle so much more?? Or is the difference in efficiency actually closer??

You sound like a salesman that my grandfather used to talk about. He would quote how fuel efficient this or that vehicle was and if you did a couple of modifications your mileage went up by 15% for this and 10% for that. My grandfather said wait a minute, if I buy everything you are selling I am going to have to stop every 100 miles and let some gas out of the tank.

[chuckChuck]

So your truck gets 1100 km. Do you often drive that far to get parts and supplies?

So you are happy the OPEC cartel is controlling the price of oil and that the subsidies and give aways to oil just keep flowing?

Are you sure you believe in the free market? LOL

And as a producer of solar energy we produce the equivalent of our annual average usage and guess what? It does the same job as any other electricity.

[LEP]

So your truck gets 1100 km. Do you often drive that far to get parts and supplies?

So you are happy the OPEC cartel is controlling the price of oil and that the subsidies and give aways to oil just keep flowing?

Are you sure you believe in the free market? LOL

And as a producer of solar energy we produce the equivalent of our annual average usage and guess what? It does the same job as any other electricity.

what does the fact that my truck gets 1100 km per tank have to do with whether or not I believe in the free market?

You are a weird little man.

[WiltonRanch]

So your truck gets 1100 km. Do you often drive that far to get parts and supplies?

So you are happy the OPEC cartel is controlling the price of oil and that the subsidies and give aways to oil just keep flowing?

Are you sure you believe in the free market? LOL

And as a producer of solar energy we produce the equivalent of our annual average usage and guess what? It does the same job as any other electricity.

Good for you. So it was subsidized to the tune of 50%? Probably from proceeds of carbon tax? Not slagging you just wondering how the economics play out now and into the future. Have a couple neighbours with farm scale arrays and I’m just making sense if it’s worth it. Looking at it from an efficiency point of view of pure economics, I would want some way of storing the electricity I don’t need in something better than a battery. Maybe hydrogen or eventually ammonia if the economics allow. Back feeding onto the grid you’re at the whim of the market as opposed to keeping it on farm to your benefit. I’ve also wondered as well about collecting solar heat and sinking it into the ground somehow where it wouldn’t be lost as fast, and a far simpler setup than an ev cell. Every time you convert something you lose power.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

what does the fact that my truck gets 1100 km per tank have to do with whether or not I believe in the free market?

You are a weird little man.

And a terrible mind reader. Based on the fact that your truck gets 1100 km per tank, Chuck's psychic abilities allowed him to deduce that you are pro opec, pro subsidies, and anti-free market.

Can always tell when Chuck is losing an argument, out come the straw man arguments.

[Hamloc]

And a terrible mind reader. Based on the fact that your truck gets 1100 km per tank, Chuck's psychic abilities allowed him to deduce that you are pro opec, pro subsidies, and anti-free market.

Can always tell when Chuck is losing an argument, out come the straw man arguments.

Chuck2 keeps going on about the free market. What does the government imposed carbon tax, the government imposed clean fuel standard, the government imposed EV sales quota’s, the government imposed emission limit for oil and gas have to do with the FREE MARKET?!?!

[shtferbrains]

Good for you. So it was subsidized to the tune of 50%? Probably from proceeds of carbon tax? Not slagging you just wondering how the economics play out now and into the future.

I tried to get Chuck to send me a pic of his Solar that we had previously discussed but he was not interested in helping.

With projected costs and inconvenience of blowing snow, maintenance and depreciation, with dependence on government programs influencing viability, etc. . I think investing $100k in Enbridge will be the way to go.

They pay 7.5% dividend and no work.

That covers my power bill.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck2 keeps going on about the free market. What does the government imposed carbon tax, the government imposed clean fuel standard, the government imposed EV sales quota’s, the government imposed emission limit for oil and gas have to do with the FREE MARKET?!?!

Well it appears as if most of you and Danny Smith don't really believe in the free market in Alberta!

Imposing stricter rules for the renewable industry and not fixing the land use rules for the much larger oil and gas industry?

All designed to discourage renewables and continue with the subsidies and incentives to oil and gas.

Billions of dollars and a legacy of underfunded liability of cleanup that taxpayers will pay for?

And many of you have the gall to complain about subsidies?

That's the Alberta big government gatekeepers getting in the way of renewables to pick winners and losers and to pander to big oil.

The irony and bullshit runs deep in UCP Alberta!

[Hamloc]

Well it appears as if most of you and Danny Smith don't really believe in the free market in Alberta!

Imposing stricter rules for the renewable industry and not fixing the land use rules for the much larger oil and gas industry?

All designed to discourage renewables and continue with the subsidies and incentives to oil and gas.

Billions of dollars and a legacy of underfunded liability of cleanup that taxpayers will pay for?

And many of you have the gall to complain about subsidies?

That's the Alberta big government gatekeepers getting in the way of renewables to pick winners and losers and to pander to big oil.

The irony and bullshit runs deep in UCP Alberta!

Where exactly in this response did you reply to my question?

Still waiting for your response to a question I previously asked which was if we cover more good cultivated land with solar panels will make it rain?

Do you think if Canada cut it’s emissions in half tomorrow it would affect the worlds weather? Canada’s weather? Look forward to your response.

[chuckChuck]

Solar and wind are the lowest cost source of new generation capacity. The amount of good quality land they will use is very small relative to what the oil and gas industry has used.

And efforts at reducing greenhouse gas emissions is happening world wide and Albertans are some of biggest greenhouse gas emitters per capita on the planet.

And its about climate not weather. Do I need to explain that difference again?

Or are you going to deny that the glaciers in Alberta are in serious decline and you are short of water? And if you are unlucky it will be another very dry smoky summer as our forests burn up and crops and grass shrivel. And you will ignore the evidence that temperatures are rising!