With Alberta renewables ban, business common sense goes out the window

[Hamloc]

And a terrible mind reader. Based on the fact that your truck gets 1100 km per tank, Chuck's psychic abilities allowed him to deduce that you are pro opec, pro subsidies, and anti-free market.

Can always tell when Chuck is losing an argument, out come the straw man arguments.

Chuck2 keeps going on about the free market. What does the government imposed carbon tax, the government imposed clean fuel standard, the government imposed EV sales quota’s, the government imposed emission limit for oil and gas have to do with the FREE MARKET?!?!

[shtferbrains]

Good for you. So it was subsidized to the tune of 50%? Probably from proceeds of carbon tax? Not slagging you just wondering how the economics play out now and into the future.

I tried to get Chuck to send me a pic of his Solar that we had previously discussed but he was not interested in helping.

With projected costs and inconvenience of blowing snow, maintenance and depreciation, with dependence on government programs influencing viability, etc. . I think investing $100k in Enbridge will be the way to go.

They pay 7.5% dividend and no work.

That covers my power bill.

[chuckChuck]

Chuck2 keeps going on about the free market. What does the government imposed carbon tax, the government imposed clean fuel standard, the government imposed EV sales quota’s, the government imposed emission limit for oil and gas have to do with the FREE MARKET?!?!

Well it appears as if most of you and Danny Smith don't really believe in the free market in Alberta!

Imposing stricter rules for the renewable industry and not fixing the land use rules for the much larger oil and gas industry?

All designed to discourage renewables and continue with the subsidies and incentives to oil and gas.

Billions of dollars and a legacy of underfunded liability of cleanup that taxpayers will pay for?

And many of you have the gall to complain about subsidies?

That's the Alberta big government gatekeepers getting in the way of renewables to pick winners and losers and to pander to big oil.

The irony and bullshit runs deep in UCP Alberta!

[Hamloc]

Well it appears as if most of you and Danny Smith don't really believe in the free market in Alberta!

Imposing stricter rules for the renewable industry and not fixing the land use rules for the much larger oil and gas industry?

All designed to discourage renewables and continue with the subsidies and incentives to oil and gas.

Billions of dollars and a legacy of underfunded liability of cleanup that taxpayers will pay for?

And many of you have the gall to complain about subsidies?

That's the Alberta big government gatekeepers getting in the way of renewables to pick winners and losers and to pander to big oil.

The irony and bullshit runs deep in UCP Alberta!

Where exactly in this response did you reply to my question?

Still waiting for your response to a question I previously asked which was if we cover more good cultivated land with solar panels will make it rain?

Do you think if Canada cut it’s emissions in half tomorrow it would affect the worlds weather? Canada’s weather? Look forward to your response.

[chuckChuck]

Solar and wind are the lowest cost source of new generation capacity. The amount of good quality land they will use is very small relative to what the oil and gas industry has used.

And efforts at reducing greenhouse gas emissions is happening world wide and Albertans are some of biggest greenhouse gas emitters per capita on the planet.

And its about climate not weather. Do I need to explain that difference again?

Or are you going to deny that the glaciers in Alberta are in serious decline and you are short of water? And if you are unlucky it will be another very dry smoky summer as our forests burn up and crops and grass shrivel. And you will ignore the evidence that temperatures are rising!

[Hamloc]

Solar and wind are the lowest cost source of new generation capacity. The amount of good quality land they will use is very small relative to what the oil and gas industry has used.

And efforts at reducing greenhouse gas emissions is happening world wide and Albertans are some of biggest greenhouse gas emitters per capita on the planet.

And its about climate not weather. Do I need to explain that difference again?

Or are you going to deny that the glaciers in Alberta are in serious decline and you are short of water? And if you are unlucky it will be another very dry smoky summer as our forests burn up and crops and grass shrivel. And you will ignore the evidence that temperatures are rising!

Still didn’t answer my question. Canada emits 1.5% of the worlds emissions. The emissions from China’s and India’s power plants are much greater than what Canada emits as a country. You still haven’t said whether putting solar panels on good cultivated land will make it rain?! And why is it wrong to restrict solar panel construction to land that isn’t productive? Is the solar panels output affected by the quality of soil it sits above?!

[fjlip]

Again, infinitely TINY share of planet...and we will save it?
Manmade contribution of SFA of C02

[chuckChuck]

Almost every country can say that their country is not the cause of the problem because their emissions are relatively small.

That why every country except 2 are part of the commitment to lower emissions. To work together.

But of course Conservatives and climate change deniers don't want to work together to solve problems?
Naw! Its everyone for themselves!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Almost every country can say that their country is not the cause of the problem because their emissions are relatively small.

That why every country except 2 are part of the commitment to lower emissions. To work together.

But of course Conservatives and climate change deniers don't want to work together to solve problems?
Naw! Its everyone for themselves!

Perhaps more of us would be on board if the solution didn't involve making energy prohibitively expensive and unreliable, which drives those energy intensive businesses to countries who haven't drank the kool-aid, having a net environmental effect much worse than keeping those industries here.

[fjlip]

Answer oh wise one, HOW can 3.225% man made C02 of 0.04% of the air in your face KILL the climate and all life on earth? Pretty stupid isn't the idea?

How about the natural 96.775%? How are taxes/EV's/windmills/solar panels going to change natural C02?

We need to know!

[TOM4CWB]

Almost every country can say that their country is not the cause of the problem because their emissions are relatively small.

That why every country except 2 are part of the commitment to lower emissions. To work together.

But of course Conservatives and climate change deniers don't want to work together to solve problems?
Naw! Its everyone for themselves!

CC… CO2 does not increase atmospheric temperatures… the scientific information clearly shows.
Plants more efficiently convert CO 2 into Carbon and Oxygen… a net gain neither of these are atmospheric…components.

Deforestation, solar panels on productive soils, urbanization, roads, water vapour being injected by aircraft at 30,000ft… volcanoes like Tonga injection of water vapour into the stratosphere…. All increases atmospheric temperatures.
Your environmental Terrorist buddies… are Deceived.
Just in case you missed the memo… “wishing these facts away “ doesn’t change them.

Many Blessings
Praying for you!
Cheers

[TSIPP]

So the second largest country on earth is responsible for 1.5 percent of the CO2 and we have more trees than anyone on earth, 318 billion of them and we are a carbon negative country but a carbon tax on Canadians is saving the world, are you lefties efen retarded?

[TSIPP]

Okay sorry for the r word but sum times it’s the only word that fits, but chuckroach owns it!

[chuckChuck]

More flat earth thinking from the usual suspects? That's all you got?

[fjlip]

You think the black square KILLS us?