For the 13th year since

[seldomseen]

Some of the oldest biggest banks in the world will still take on 30 year loans on some of the most expensive properties right along the sea in places that were supposed to be underwater before now.
What would those properties be worth underwater? Do you think those bankers would take a risk like that?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Its the experts who are saying the climate has changed and the frequency and intensity of extreme weather events has increased already.

But don't let that stop you from saying the opposite!

So A5 do you take a measuring stick on your beach vacation?

And do you think the the measuring sticks at the shrinking glaciers in the Colombia icefield are fake and were planted by communists? No doubt!

Tough crowd today.
I came to your defense, and you still come back with a nasty response.
And yes, I do take a measuring stick on vacation with me. Called an avalanche probe.
Works well to measure the snow depth.
Snow, which is supposed to be a thing of the past by now.

[goalieguy847]

If you all get a chance.. watch " arctic ascent" with alex honnold, on disney plus. Same guy who climbed the dawn wall on el capitan with no ropes in record time. Wild. Absolutely insane climbing... BUT he travels with a glacierologist ( spelling) who collects data as they climb along and hike across some icecaps in greenland. Its pretty interesting and a bit " unexpected" what she finds. The cinematography and video work is incredible. Worth the watch whether you are a rock climber or not....

Also, are we still at the stage where people actually believe climate change isnt real?

I certainly believe it is but i firmly believe we have no clue as to 1) how quickly its happening 2) what the end results will be 3) whether or not we can actually change anything ( natural cycles) and 4) whether or not its even labelled correctly.

Theres alot of evidence that " seems" to point in both directions.... kind of like whether you think trump is an insurrectionist or not. No middle ground it seems.....

Divide divide divide

. And conquer

[chuckChuck]

Every credible scientific organization that studies climate change has lots of evidence on the impact of humans on the climate.

They have the temperature records and CO2 concentrations.

The science is well documented by several world class scientific organizations.

But of course then you get deniers like A5 who think asphalt is an influence on temperatures in the arctic and the oceans.

Or Like Robert who goes on a beach holiday and declares that the ocean level at that particular beach hasn't change one bit in 13 years. I mean how would you know just by looking at an ocean that is going up and down every day with tides? Not to mention that it is only one beach in one location out of all the oceans and coastlines in the world and we are talking about small changes every year over long periods of time.

Neither can put 2 and 2 together!

[sumdumguy]

How would these, “experts” have proof that humans influence climate? Use your brain.

[chuckChuck]

Temperature record and CO2 record.

Did you miss all your science classes Sum Dumb guy? Seems like it!

[sumdumguy]

And how does temperature record and CO2 prove the weather is changed by humans? Temperature changes because of several factors, CO2 levels change normally continuously due to many factors. All concocted supposition. Darts in the dark.

[chuckChuck]

Sure dumb guy sure! And how would you know just looking out your window?

[WiltonRanch]

There you go again with name calling.

[Robertbarlage]

Well Chuck locals here say it has never changed in 500 years