Renewables pose little threat to agriculture, environment: report

[shtferbrains]

No shit sherlock!

But we all knew it was a political decision to make up crap arguments

What a bunch of two faced hypocrites and liars.

Have to agree with you 100% on this one Chuck.

Government policy is always all about politics and what will get them the most votes?

Voters who pay taxes are realizing who is going to pay and are getting some indication of what the new green initiative ia going to cost.

Mr Trudeau and company have spent all the money we send them and created the largest deficit in history but we still hear "Climate Emergency" like all those billions have gone down the drain producing no results.

Taxpayers are seeing a bleak future with governments spending more than they collect and causing huge inflation.

Canada should be a prosperous country with hard working people able to live in at least as good a lifestyle as their parents and grandparents.

Time for government to get get back to basic and get out of our wallets.

Taxpayers have had enough of paying for virtue signaling.

[shtferbrains]

[url]https://www.canada.ca/en/agriculture-agri-food/news/2022/02/the-government-of-canada-invests-in-clean-technology-to-support-sustainable-farming-practices.html[/url]

If someone can make this a hot link it is interesting how government can dole out a relatively small amount like the $170 million on this program and yet for those of us who are close to the situation it is so easy to see the scams and waste.

Few knew you could get $2 million for solar panels or over a million to install a new grain dryer?
Add the word digester or biomass and a million $$$ is a good place to start.

All to avoid a "Climate Emergency".

Hope you didn't miss out on the real money when you sent in you application for the subsidies Chuck?
When you told me to go see a solar installer did you mean they know how to scam the application?

Or maybe by the look of many of the home provinces you get your MP's office to help with getting the funding?

[chuckChuck]

Utility scale solar, wind and other renewables are close to providing approximately 20% of Alberta's electricity.

Danny and the UCP chose the independent Alberta Utility Commission (AUC) to study the impact of the renewable energy sector.

And Danny chose to ignore their findings with a plan to discourage renewable investment. But otherwise all the other land loss issues identified are ignored?

So what part of the following AUC report dont you understand?

“Assuming all renewable development locates on (some of Alberta’s best) land, the percentage of (such) agricultural land loss is estimated to be less than one per cent by 2041,”

It found that renewable power is much less of a threat to the province’s farmland than other forms of energy development and urban spread.

“From 2019 to 2021, the largest driver of agricultural land loss was expansion of pipelines and industrial sites,” it says. “Other key drivers . . . include urban residential development, mines and wells, and roads.”

The report notes that the vast majority of wind and solar sites are located on poorer land. It also points out that wind farms use about five per cent of their lease area, leaving the rest available for grazing or suitable crops.

The commission concludes that current rules are adequate to ensure reclamation."

[cropgrower]

So what percentage of vehicles in canada need to be electric ? and what percentage of power generation needs to be renewable to fix climate change ? show us the science , dont tell us that research has not been done , or is it like the 2 weeks to flatten the curve that turned into 3 years to destroy the economy ?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

“[B]From 2019 to 2021, the largest driver of agricultural land loss was expansion of pipelines and...

I definitely trust a study that concludes that underground pipelines which are farmed over till the end of time are "the largest driver of agricultural land loss" .

You might want to check your sources. Or at least pretend to understand the industry you pretend to be in, and the industry you constantly malign.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I assume that Chuck and the author of this study must have seen pictures of pipelines on permafrost in Alaska or Siberia where they run them above ground, and assumed that that is how it's done everywhere.

Why would anyone embarrass themselves by coming on a public forum and revealing their gross ignorance.

[chuckChuck]

That was one item of several listed as a cause of land loss. Are you going to ignore all the oil wells and header sites and roads to oil and gas wells too?

Why did Danny and the dumpster fire ask the AUC to study the issue of land loss if they weren't credible or qualified?

So pipelines are never on the surface in Alberta? You are a liar or badly informed and probably both.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Congratulations chuck, you have your first official gotcha moment. You found a picture of above ground pipeline from fort mcmurray.
I concede defeat on this issue.
How much number one farmland do they have in fort mcmurray?

[chuckChuck]

“Assuming all renewable development locates on (some of Alberta’s best) land, the percentage of (such) agricultural land loss is estimated to be less than one per cent by 2041,” says the Alberta Utilities Commission report, released Wednesday.

And we all know most of the renewable energy installation is occurring on lower quality land in southern Alberta.

Gotcha again!

[chuckChuck]

So is the land around this Edmonton refinery low quality land or good quality farm land?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So is the land around this Edmonton refinery low quality land or good quality farm land?

I gave you too much credit earlier. Now you can't tell the difference between a pipeline and a refinery?

[chuckChuck]

So the refinery is not sitting on good farmland?

What part of the following don't you understand?

“From 2019 to 2021, the largest driver of agricultural land loss was expansion of pipelines and industrial sites,” it says. “Other key drivers . . . include urban residential development, mines and wells, and roads.”