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    #25
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

    Carbon dioxide is Earth’s most important greenhouse gas .?
    Do you even read this stuff before you post it? Are you at all capable of comprehending the cut and paste you find? Do you have any fact checkers on your team?
    Here is a cut and paste from Zeke Housfather of yale, a very high profile climate catastrophist, he seems to disagree with your absurd claim. Water vapor is one of the most important elements of the climate system. A greenhouse gas, like carbon dioxide, it represents around 80 percent of total greenhouse gas mass in the atmosphere and 90 percent of greenhouse gas volume.

    Water vapor and clouds account for 66 to 85 percent of the greenhouse effect,

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      #26
      Answer...How does the 97% natural C02 NOT drive global climate, but 3% man made does?

      Can you TELL them apart? They smell different? Different color? Heavier?

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        #27
        Originally posted by fjlip View Post
        Answer...How does the 97% natural C02 NOT drive global climate, but 3% man made does?

        Can you TELL them apart? They smell different? Different color? Heavier?

        That's easy. Nature can tell them apart, the same way that she can tell the difference between CO2 emitted from the maritimes versus western Canada. That is why they get an exemption from the CO2 tax, and we don't.
        Only Western Canadian CO2 causes catastrophic global warming.
        In the same way that CO2 from oil imported from the Middle East does not cause catastrophic global warming.
        That is also why with a clear conscience, we can send our energy intensive industries to China where they use coal energy, because mother nature knows that CO2 released in China is virtuous and does not cause global warming.

        It is a very sneaky little molecule. All that, plus it is responsible for every imaginary problem plaguing humanity and the Earth.
        Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Mar 18, 2024, 12:08.

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          #28
          They are Increasing carbon tax on april 1st fools day , just too mock the fools that believe in the scam

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            #29
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

            Do you even read this stuff before you post it? Are you at all capable of comprehending the cut and paste you find? Do you have any fact checkers on your team?
            Here is a cut and paste from Zeke Housfather of yale, a very high profile climate catastrophist, he seems to disagree with your absurd claim. Water vapor is one of the most important elements of the climate system. A greenhouse gas, like carbon dioxide, it represents around 80 percent of total greenhouse gas mass in the atmosphere and 90 percent of greenhouse gas volume.

            Water vapor and clouds account for 66 to 85 percent of the greenhouse effect,
            Yes water vapour is an important factor in climate.

            Water vapour amplifies the earths greenhouse effect. But water vapour is not the cause of the greenhouse effect.

            Wrong again A5! Are you sure you have an engineering degree?

            "Some people mistakenly believe water vapor is the main driver of Earth’s current warming. But increased water vapor doesn’t cause global warming. Instead, it’s a consequence of it. Increased water vapor in the atmosphere amplifies the warming caused by other greenhouse gases.

            Earth's water cycle. Credit: NASA


            It works like this: As greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane increase, Earth’s temperature rises in response. This increases evaporation from both water and land areas. Because warmer air holds more moisture, its concentration of water vapor increases. Specifically, this happens because water vapor does not condense and precipitate out of the atmosphere as easily at higher temperatures. The water vapor then absorbs heat radiated from Earth and prevents it from escaping out to space. This further warms the atmosphere, resulting in even more water vapor in the atmosphere. This is what scientists call a "positive feedback loop." Scientists estimate this effect more than doubles the warming that would happen due to increasing carbon dioxide alone."

            [url]https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3143/steamy-relationships-how-atmospheric-water-vapor-amplifies-earths-greenhouse-effect/[/url]
            Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 19, 2024, 08:26.

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              #30
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

              Yes water vapour is an important factor in climate.

              Water vapour amplifies the earths greenhouse effect. But water vapour is not the cause of the greenhouse effect.

              Wrong again A5! Are you sure you have an engineering degree?

              "Some people mistakenly believe water vapor is the main driver of Earth’s current warming. But increased water vapor doesn’t cause global warming. Instead, it’s a consequence of it. Increased water vapor in the atmosphere amplifies the warming caused by other greenhouse gases.

              Earth's water cycle. Credit: NASA


              It works like this: As greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane increase, Earth’s temperature rises in response. This increases evaporation from both water and land areas. Because warmer air holds more moisture, its concentration of water vapor increases. Specifically, this happens because water vapor does not condense and precipitate out of the atmosphere as easily at higher temperatures. The water vapor then absorbs heat radiated from Earth and prevents it from escaping out to space. This further warms the atmosphere, resulting in even more water vapor in the atmosphere. This is what scientists call a "positive feedback loop." Scientists estimate this effect more than doubles the warming that would happen due to increasing carbon dioxide alone."

              [url]https://climate.nasa.gov/explore/ask-nasa-climate/3143/steamy-relationships-how-atmospheric-water-vapor-amplifies-earths-greenhouse-effect/[/url]
              So does this mean that the climatologist Zeke Hausfather I quoted above is now a denier too? He used to be on your team.

              This is another example of what I posted elsewhere about you never acknowledging when I do post credible scientific organizations that contradict your agenda.

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                #31
                Answer CC...How does the 97% natural C02 NOT drive global climate, but 3% man made does?

                Can you TELL them apart? They smell different? Different color? Heavier?​

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                  #32
                  So Flipper you don't seem understand that CO2 levels have risen from 280 ppm in 1750 to over 420ppm and the majority of that increase has come from burning fossil fuels?

                  "Atmospheric carbon dioxide is now 50 percent higher than it was before the Industrial Revolution."

                  The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere (blue line) has increased along with human emissions (gray line) since the start of the Industrial Revolution in 1750. Emissions rose slowly to about 5 gigatons—one gigaton is a billion metric tons—per year in the mid-20th century before skyrocketing to more than 35 billion tons per year by the end of the century. NOAA Climate.gov graph, adapted from original by Dr. Howard Diamond (NOAA ARL). Atmospheric CO2 data from NOAA ([url]https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/data.html[/url]) and ETHZ ([url]https://iac.ethz.ch/[/url]). CO2 emissions data from Our World in Data ([url]https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-other-greenhouse-gas-emissions#how-have-global-co2-emissions-changed-over-time[/url]) and the Global Carbon Project ([url]https://www.globalcarbonproject.org/).​[/url]

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                    #33
                    Chuck2, interesting article on [url]www.science.smith.edu[/url] : “The effects of the little Ice Age(c. 1300-1850).”

                    A two degree Celsius drop in temperature. Your comparing levels of C02 to 1750. Are you also comparing today’s temperature to 1750? Obviously higher now after exiting the little Ice Age.

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                      #34
                      Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                      Chuck2, interesting article on [url]www.science.smith.edu[/url] : “The effects of the little Ice Age(c. 1300-1850).”

                      A two degree Celsius drop in temperature. Your comparing levels of C02 to 1750. Are you also comparing today’s temperature to 1750? Obviously higher now after exiting the little Ice Age.
                      And that is why Micheal Mann has to defend the hockey Schtick at all costs. To erase the little ice age, and the Medieval warm period before that. Otherwise, comparing todays temperatures to the depth of the little ice age would look a lot like cherry picking.

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                        #35
                        Your graph look much like this one but this one gets into much more detail.
                        I don't like to post anything to complicated as you don't seem to interested in actual data but it shouldn't be to hard to figure out.
                        Now what are we going to do about it?
                        If we pay higher carbon tax will it start dropping in a few years like our environment minister promised?

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                          #36
                          That chart is a hard reality check as carbon tax increases 23% shortly again

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