Their is no such thing as long covid

[fjlip]

I never said the vax KILLS outright, I suggest if both facts are correct, " getting Covid after VAXED 2-3-4-5 times, cumulative effects happen."

Then I said a person I know DESPITE all the VAXES, is sick. The vax NEVER helped him. That is a fact.
Further it is possible we are all different in that most CAN handle Vax effects. But obviously small percent can not.

I believe the storage and administration of shots left much to be desired. First the said -70C, then just the fridge? I bet the spike settled in the vials, some got much more spikes. The doses were NOT age/body size adjusted. My 90lb, 89 year old Mom got same shot as 200lb 40 year guy? Way too much uncertainty.

Anyway unvaxed and still here. Some say we should have all DIED.

[chuckChuck]

The initial waves of covid caused death and organ damage. In some cases to otherwise healthy people. But mostly to those who had weak immune systems or were elderly.

I have met several healthy people who have said after getting covid, they still have lingering symptons that would be called long covid.

Viruses can cause long term damage to the body. Just ask anyone who had polio before vaccines.

To suggest that long covid is not real, is like saying the nerve damage from the polio virus is not real. Get a brain Crop.

Myocarditis is a possible side effect of the vaccines. It is rare and temporary in thhe vast majority of cases.

Myocarditis from covid is a more frequent complication.

Crop you posted a fake antivaxer poster claiming it was from Ireland and when I pointed out that the Irish health services clearly say covid vaccines are safe you slinked away and disappeared.

You are a shameless uninformed liar.

[url]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html[/url]

"Long COVID is a real illness and can result in chronic conditions that require comprehensive care. There are resources available. Long COVID can include a wide range of ongoing health problems; these conditions can last weeks, months, or years."

[cropgrower]

all based on a test that they now have also said did not work , no matter what illness folk had it was called C19

[chuckChuck]

Sure Crop. Another crap idea? Get a brain.

[fjlip]

"Myocarditis is a possible side effect of the vaccines. It is rare and temporary in the vast majority of cases.

Myocarditis from covid is a more frequent complication."

Again what if it adds up, Covid after Vaxed? Those are the sickest.

[chuckChuck]

How do you know who are the sickest based on personal accounts? If someone gets vaccinated and they get myocarditis, which is very rare, it usually happens not that long after the vaccine.

How do you know when they got vaccinated and when they get sick unless they tell you? So do you have the medical records of tens of thousands of people?

The answer is obvious. You need the numbers from a very large group of people to know the real risk of vaccines.

[url]https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/vaccine-safety/summary.html[/url]

A total of 105,016,456 vaccine doses have been administered in Canada as of December 3, 2023, including 5,694,993 vaccine doses of XBB.1.5 vaccines and 9,948,907 doses of bivalent vaccines. Adverse events (side effects) have been reported by 58,712 people up to and including January 5, 2024. That’s about 6 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.

• Of the 58,712 individual reports, 47,010 were considered non-serious (0.045% of all doses administered) and 11,702 were considered serious (0.011% of all doses administered). Among all adverse event reports:
  • 1,044 were following bivalent vaccines, of which 783 were considered non-serious (0.008% of bivalent doses administered) and 261 (0.003% of bivalent doses administered) were considered serious.
  • 278 were following XBB.1.5 vaccines, of which 251 were considered non-serious (0.004% of XBB.1.5 vaccine doses administered) and 27 (0.0005% of XBB.1.5 vaccine doses administered) were considered serious.
• Most adverse events are mild and include soreness at the site of injection or a slight fever.
• Serious adverse events are rare, but do occur. They include anaphylaxis (a severe allergic reaction), which has been reported 777 times (1 report per 100,000 doses administered) for all COVID-19 vaccines across Canada. That’s why you may need to wait for a period of time after you receive a vaccination so that you can receive treatment in case of an allergic reaction.

Adverse events may occur after being vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine, but they are not necessarily related to the vaccine.

• Evidence indicates that the benefits of COVID-19 vaccines continue to outweigh the risks of the disease.

[furrowtickler]

Looks about the same risk as the rise in atmospheric carbon percentage wise .
Yet it’s a climate catastrophe according to some

[chuckChuck]

Climate change is a slow moving crisis that we are already experiencing in the form of more extreme events.

Record setting events that blasted through previous records last year by a wide margin with warming temperatures and area of forest fires in 2023 for example.

But you still deny the cause?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Looks about the same risk as the rise in atmospheric carbon percentage wise .
Yet it’s a climate catastrophe according to some

Not only that, but with the climate catastrophe, you only need a sample size of one to come up with a credible statistic proving climate change is real.
If not for double standards, I don't think chuck would have any standards.

[fjlip]

How would a COOLING planet help/save/benefit all life?
Give examples. Like less crops/food/more heating required?

Tell us WHAT is the IDEAL C02, IDEAL climate? when was that?

[chuckChuck]

So you lost the argument on covid vaccine risk so you switch to your antiscience and anti evidence climate change denial?

[TSIPP]

The vaxx is neither safe or effective, your just spewing propaganda!

[cropgrower]

all our arguments from 3 years ago still stand true , thats not something the brainwashed jab addicts can say

[chuckChuck]

Where is your credible scientific evidence that the vaccines are unsafe and not effective. And no your personal account of your family and friends experience isn't credible science if you didn't know that already!

And don't bother posting fake antivaxer crap from social media because it isn't credible either.

We are waiting, and waiting, and have been waiting ever since the pandemic was declared for credible evidence to back up your flakey opinions. And it never comes. Give up!

[cropgrower]

you still have not told us what is credible evidence