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    #13
    Here is a recent Gallop survey on the demographics of EV owners:

    Most Americans Are Not Completely Sold on Electric Vehicles

    You have to highlight and Google it.

    " U.S. adults with annual household incomes of $100,000 and over are more likely than those in lower income groups to already own or say they may own an EV. This may be a function of the higher price tag on electric versus gas vehicles."

    "Americans who worry a great deal about global warming or climate change are most open to owning an electric vehicle now or in the future, with 79% saying they currently own one (5%), are seriously considering it (16%) or would at some point (58%). Conversely, 77% of those who are not at all concerned about climate change say they would never own an EV."

    Lots more good data in the survey that you can pick through and get some idea of how successful or not that program is going.

    If 79% of the climate emergency believers alredy have an EV are we approaching peak EV?
    Or does that say only 5% of climate emergency believers have actually layed out the money.
    That would be because they can't and probably never will be adle to afford one.

    I spent 10 days in SoCal recently .
    We have been going for 25+ yrs as my son used to live there.
    Haven't been since covid Jan 20.

    EV's are more common there as California has the most of any state and is probably the most suited to them with a well developed support system.

    After 4 yrs I expected to see a lot more. Pickup trucks still clearly outnumber EV'S and most are just personal use urbanites.
    As the Gallup survey above shows there is a very limited market upper middle class climate emergency believers.
    26% of the subsidized buyers earn over $200K.

    IMHO the Governments have spent all the money they can print or tax and that will be the end of the virtuous plans to replace ICE vehicles.
    Taxpayers are now seeing who is going to pay and are getting a peek at what it is going to cost them.

    It ain't going to happen.
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    Last edited by shtferbrains; Mar 23, 2024, 13:39.

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      #14
      Longer range plug in hybrid Evs will cover a lot of the needs of suburban drivers who drive relatively short distances on a daily basis. Most people live in cities and most people drive 25 km or less a day.

      "In 2016, 12.6 million Canadians reported that they commuted to work by car. For these commuters, the average duration of the commute was 24 minutes, and the median distance to work among those who had a usual workplace was 8.7 kilometres.Feb 25, 2019​"

      [url]https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/190225/dq190225a-eng.htm[/url]

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        #15
        From the Toronto Sun: “Goldstein: Trudeau’s costly carbon tax just the tip of the iceberg.”

        Recent Canadian Climate Institute report. Electric vehicle standards will account for 2% to 3% of Canada’s C02 reductions!!! This absolutely amazed me. Our government and governments in other countries are going to outlaw ICE passenger vehicles making transportation more expensive with shorter ranges and put many people out of work to reduce C02 emissions by 2% to 3%!!! Best line in the article, the Canadian government “prefers to treat Canadians like mushrooms by keeping them in the dark and covering them with manure.” What a fantastic statement. But think about that, Chuck2 lectures us on how important EVs are but they are going to turn the whole industry upside down to lower emissions 2% to 3%!! Crazy!

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          #16
          "But think about that, Chuck2 lectures us on how important EVs are but they are going to turn the whole industry upside down to lower emissions 2% to 3%!! Crazy!"


          Yes WOW for DUMB! Isn't it CC?

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            #17
            Its early days in the transition. More patience my friends.

            The more important part of the report shows that the carbon tax on large emitters is working much better at reducing emissions and for the most part you don't even notice.

            And Trevor Tombe and the PBO showed that the inflationary effect of the carbon tax is really low, well below 1%.

            But during the the biggest inflationary period in decades the oil companies made record profits! But according to flat earthers those high oil prices weren't inflationary!

            And little PP says the only cause of inflation on everything is the carbon tax! Just like he said crypto currency will protect us from inflation! LOL

            It must be the new math conservatives are using!

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              #18
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Its early days in the transition. More patience my friends.

              The more important part of the report shows that the carbon tax on large emitters is working much better at reducing emissions and for the most part you don't even notice.

              And Trevor Tombe and the PBO showed that the inflationary effect of the carbon tax is really low, well below 1%.

              But during the the biggest inflationary period in decades the oil companies made record profits! But according to flat earthers those high oil prices weren't inflationary!

              And little PP says the only cause of inflation on everything is the carbon tax! Just like he said crypto currency will protect us from inflation! LOL

              It must be the new math conservatives are using!
              What an amusingly tone deaf response. After all your preaching on EV’s you didn’t even address how little EV’s will lower emissions. Instead you again attack how oil companies, in your opinion, made too much money. I feel like a reporter asking Justin Trudeau a question knowing he won’t in any way shape or form answer my question!!

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                #19
                Chuckroach, the major influence on inflation was the turd blowing 650 billion out his ass and nothing to show for it!

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                  #20
                  and when all that money was being dumped out PP was every day saying it would cause inflation , and he was 100% correct in what he said would happen

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                    #21
                    As anyone with any common Sense has been saying all along, governments will inevitably find a way to put a road to tax on to electric vehicles. California is trying to find a way to track your mileage so they can tax electric vehicles based on mileage.


                    So not only did they ruin the affordability and reliability of the electricity needed to charge the EVS, by destroying fossil fuel and nuclear plants and sabotaging by adding wind and solar, now they will add a tax per mile to the electric vehicles. Tell me again how much cheaper it is to drive an electric vehicle

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                      #22
                      Ha ha ha....Road Tax for road wrecking, tire wearing EV's! To be fair HAS to be greater than ICE.

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                        #23
                        Maybe they replace incredibly heavy inefficient batteries with solar panels strapped to car roofs
                        should solve the problems

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                          #24
                          Can't drive at night, less charge when cloudy...and we all know lithium batteries hold less charge as they age. Range goes to SFA.

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