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    #97
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    To make your electrician comparison more analogous to being forced to take a vaccine to keep your job or education;
    The forced vaccine would be the equivalent of apprentice electricians having to grab a hold of a potentially live high voltage wire as part of their training. There's only a 1 in 100 chance that it's actually live, and not all of the apprentices die instantly, some will survive. How many people would choose that career in that case?

    A few years ago, I would have absolutely agreed with you. But given everything we now know about the vaccine, this is not the same as the examples you made. How many people died or were disabled from having to take a psych evaluation?
    You go to any anti vax page and you will find a plethora of people who had reactions to common vaccines like the MMR. Knowing they had reactions, should we all forgo the vaccines?

    Should I be comfortable if I’m immunocompromised going in to a doctors office full of people who are not vaccinated for Measels, mumps, or rubella, because a portion of the population has a reaction to the vaccine?

    A portion of the population has a reaction to gluten also, let’s not grow wheat. And some are lactose intolerant so ban dairy.

    Now your response to the latter is going to be we aren’t forced to eat wheat or dairy, which is true, those are choices we make in life. And while I didn’t agree with forcing the general population into a vaccine with little backup information, nor do I think the small phrase of “I can’t (go to medical school), I’m not vaccinated” is a good summation of the situation.

    Medical personnel should be held to a higher standard for health criteria just as RCMP should be held to a higher standard psychologically. If you disagree with the pre requisites for those careers, then you’re unlikely to succeed in them anyway.

    How many people could be harmed if people in careers like law enforcement are just allowed to bypass psych evaluations because of their personal beliefs?

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      #98
      Again, with the benefit of hindsight, it we are holding medical people to a higher standard of health(and critical thinking), then the unvaccinated win that one hands down. By that logic, shouldn't they be the first ones hired?

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        #99
        I wouldn’t say anyone wins anything hands down. Saying so displays bias.

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          Win was probably the wrong choice of word.
          Statistically speaking with a few years of data now, the unvaccinated are healthier by all measures.

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            That’s not a claim I believe has much substance behind it at this point in time.

            As always, correlation does not equal causation.

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              See this is how an intelligent debate takes place between two disagreeing parties Chuck. Take note.

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                Lol


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                  Blaithin, there are millions of unvaxxed people admitted into this country every day, and they do frequent our medical offices. Should they be denied entry?

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                    Looks like Chris Cuomo had done a full 180 on vaccines , now claims to be injured himself

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                      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                      Blaithin, there are millions of unvaxxed people admitted into this country every day, and they do frequent our medical offices. Should they be denied entry?
                      Millions every day? I didn’t realize our population was exploding THAT much.

                      No people should be denied medical care.

                      Health care providers are held to different standards and have different access than civilians. As I’ve said, their line of work it’s highly likely they’re dealing with immune compromised people as well as people who come in and may not be vaccinated and as a result may have an illness the health care worker needs protection from. They practice extreme cleanliness, personal hygiene, and product sterilization compared to civilians. Should surgeons also not practice such strict sanitation because the millions of daily arrivals don’t practice such to the same extremes?
                      Last edited by Blaithin; May 6, 2024, 21:58.

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                        well OK, you are right, its hundreds or thousands - Glad you caught that. Might I elaborate : people that enter this country every day by boat, air, rail, refugees are not all immigrants.
                        Last edited by sumdumguy; May 6, 2024, 22:33.

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                          Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                          See this is how an intelligent debate takes place between two disagreeing parties Chuck. Take note.
                          Huh!, Willie, are you some kind of flat Earth believing lgbtq hating climate denying racist misogynist bigot? LOL.

                          Insert completely unrelated allegations against the disagreeing poster here. Then deflect and try to force them to defend something they never said in the first place.

                          Did I do that right? I've been learning from the best.

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