More Taxpayer subsidies to the Oil patch!

[chuckChuck]

Glad to hear that you guys are in favour of biofuels to reduce greenhouse gas emissions even though they are of questionable value.

More likely you are interested in the higher crop prices that come from biofuel.

And you wanna be paid for carbon sequestration, but you don't think excess CO2 in the atmosphere causes climate change or is a problem?

Try to get your story straight!

[shtferbrains]

Thats all? Are you sure? The biofuel subsidy is tax on all food! Lower crop prices will help feed a hungry world!

The free market libertarian farmers support subsidies and market distortion that benefit, guess who? Themselves!

You're going to have to splain to me how farmers are the only benefactors of the clean fuel initiative.

Everything I see makes it a cornerstone in meeting our climate mitigation goals.

What comes off the cracking tower is kind of a fixed amount of gas/diesel.

Bringing large numbers of EV's as planed causes big shortages for diesel powered heavy equipment that is important to keep people from starving and a few other minor issues like shipping.

Therefore you need a kind of immaculate combustion from biofuels to keep the whole ball rolling.

If you didn't 'incentivize' climate change mitigation how would you make your net zero targets? We don't want to see any glaciers melting because we haven't met out targets here in Canada?

[WiltonRanch]

So how is it that the pretend libertarians support biofuel mandates that result in higher prices for their crops? And all we get is crickets!

Same on more direct farm subsidies. More denial and excuses!

Better get back to feeding the hungry world!

Same old rhetoric. Bloody broken record. Better get back to trolling.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, you are usually referring to me when you use the word libertarian. Although I've yet to understand why you think that is a derogatory word.
If this comment was addressed to me, I will respond. I do not support the mandates for biofuels. I do not support subsidizing biofuels. I indicated higher up in this thread why I don't believe we have seen any long-term bump in grain prices due to biofuels. We have just seen an increase in worldwide production of grains.
All silly calculations about CO2 aside, ethanol can stand on its own without mandates or subsidies. It is typically cheaper per BTU than gasoline. It is a safer alternative to the other nasty oxygenates such as MTBE and lead.
Unless something drastic happens to the price of oil and Diesel and aviation fuel, renewable Diesel and sustainable aviation fuel won't exist without mandates and subsidies. Unless consumers decide they want to pay more to pretend they are saving the environment, renewable Diesel and aviation fuel do not have a future.

[chuckChuck]

So how is it that the pretend libertarians support biofuel mandates that result in higher prices for their crops? And all we get is crickets!

Same on more direct farm subsidies. More denial and excuses!

Better get back to feeding the hungry world!

[furrowtickler]

Thats all? Are you sure? The biofuel subsidy is tax on all food! Lower crop prices will help feed a hungry world!

The free market libertarian farmers support subsidies and market distortion that benefit, guess who? Themselves!

Others don’t pay our bills .

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Chuck, you accidentally made multiple commodity marketing related posts relevant to agriculture. Better late than never.

Perhaps the start of a trend?

Why don't you post these in the adult forum where they belong? Perhaps you should notify the administrators and request to have your adult table privileges reinstated.

[cropgrower]

one dollar more to farmer will add less than 2.5 cent too a loaf of bread , half that on white bread ,so clearly you are barking up the wrong tree again

[chuckChuck]

Thats all? Are you sure? The biofuel subsidy is tax on all food! Lower crop prices will help feed a hungry world!

The free market libertarian farmers support subsidies and market distortion that benefit, guess who? Themselves!

[cropgrower]

yes a dollar more per bushel on wheat to the farmer will cost everyone one or two cent more on a loaf of bread