For the first time in more than 150 years, Alberta’s electricity is coal free

[sumdumguy]

Go fossil fuels! You have no competition.

[TSIPP]

Where else can you find so many words printed by someone who knows so little?

That would be agriville where chuckroach always brings the silly!

[shtferbrains]

Go fossil fuels! You have no competition.

A long ways from net zero.

Will never happen as the money is spent .
All on Debt financing now with zero ROI as they are just replacing functional plants.
If you spend billion with no increase in productivity does that cause inflation and reduce per capita productivity to the lowest in the G20?

[furrowtickler]

Chuck you are so far gone it’s laughable now

[furrowtickler]

What was the wind and solar production today from 10 till 4 pm ?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What was the wind and solar production today from 10 till 4 pm ?

I've been checking occasionally today. Solar peaked out at 1300 out of 1650 capacity.
Wind never got above 0.5% of its own capacity.
Gas provided approx 85% of generation all day.

[furrowtickler]

I've been checking occasionally today. Solar peaked out at 1300 out of 1650 capacity.
Wind never got above 0.5% of its own capacity.
Gas provided approx 85% of generation all day.

Hmmm , just when peak demand eh ?

[Hamloc]

So time to change the subject because you can't face facts? LOL

So the solar is not producing either in all the summer sun? How come you forget about solar? Early onset?

Its not one or the other when disusing renewables and other sources. There are 365 days in the year and you need to measure their annual output and contribution to lowering carbon emissions.

Wind and solar have the the lowest LCOE for new capacity.

But you will always find an excuse to say they don't work nor have any value!

Lowest LCOE for wind and solar for new capacity. Alberta has 4748 megawatts of installed wind generation capacity. Right now it is producing 34 megawatts. What is it costing to produce those megawatts really? The remaining 4716 megawatts have to come from another generation source!!! Is this reality lost on you Chuck2?!?!

[chuckChuck]

You can always find periods when intermittent renewables aren't producing anything.

Everybody knows they are intermittent.

But when they are producing they are displacing electricity from fossil sources with no fuel costs.

They don't need renewables to be the entire source of electricity to be cost effective and reduce CO2 emissions.

You need to look at what their impact is over the whole year.

In the push to reduce greenhouse gases from fossil fuels it is not just renewables vs fossil fuels and other sources. It will be all sources working together.

Our solar PV system covers our average annual usage. We often produce more than we use which supplies other customers. And our cost per kwh is lower than Sask Power's farm rate.

[fjlip]

Such low cost! Worthless if not producing when needed like cold dark calm winter nights. Hot calm summer days….but enjoy your average annual, freezing and boiling!

Grow up! Think , reason!

first elephant in room is we don’t need to reduce C02!

[chuckChuck]

So electricity from renewables like hydro, solar and wind are worthless? LOL

What is worthless are ill informed opinions from climate change deniers and flat earthers who don't have a clue!

Every province in the country has a plan to reduce carbon emissions one way or the other including Alberta and Saskatchewan. They both have a carbon tax on large emitters.

Why are they both talking up nuclear as a way of reducing emissions? And also installing more renewables. Just like Ontario!

[blackpowder]

Haven't you guys noticed Chuck only engages in threads of his design and control.
Sound doesn't carry in a vacuum.
Leave him to one.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Haven't you guys noticed Chuck only engages in threads of his design and control.
Sound doesn't carry in a vacuum.
Leave him to one.

But what fun would that be?

Much more entertaining to encourage him/her into meltdown mode, when he/she reveals his/her gross ignorance and actual agenda. Every single time.

[shtferbrains]

[QUOTE=chuckChuck;n799521]

In the push to reduce greenhouse gases from fossil fuels it is not just renewables vs fossil fuels and other sources. It will be all sources working together.


What happens when leadership in the rich countries that are financing the whole thing shift policy?

Trump says;

"Green New Scam, it's a scam"

"And all of the trillions of dollars that are sitting there not yet spent, we will redirect that money for important projects like roads, bridges, dams, and we will not allow it to be spent on meaningless green new scam ideas"



Taxpayers are seeing what the costs truly are and know they don't have enough money to "save" by investing in EV's and renewables.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What happens when leadership in the rich countries that are financing the whole thing shift policy?

That's easy. The private sector will invest in any renewable projects that are financially viable.
In a high interest rate
environment.
With all the costs up front.
With a payback time that often exceeds the useful life.
At the same time that the constraints on developing reliable energy will be removed, lowering f their costs.
At the same time that the artificial costs (CO2 taxes etc) are removed from reliable energy.
While the mandates and subsidies will disappear.
During a trade war with the country making all of the solar panels, batteries , electronic components and material processing.