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    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

    Yet both sides of this debate don't see anything hypocritical about vehemently defending the right to bodily autonomy in one aspect, then demanding the exact opposite on the other issue.

    Two completely different situations.

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      Possibly up to but not after the point we had passports

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        how about the bodily autonomy of the helpless innocent unborn ? nobody asks them what they would like done with their body's , would they like to have a life of not ? have very mixed thoughts on MAID also

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          Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

          Two completely different situations.
          Bullshit! Complete utter bullshit.

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            Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
            how about the bodily autonomy of the helpless innocent unborn ? nobody asks them what they would like done with their body's , would they like to have a life of not ? have very mixed thoughts on MAID also
            I agree with you on many things but this is where we have to agree to disagree. MAID is messy but I see both sides. Seen enough suicides of people I know and hate the thought but also seen people suffer as they slowly died. Far as abortion if someone is willing to abort an unwanted pregnancy because of their own disregard for the consequences of their actions is it justified the pregnancy is carried to term? I know the religious element and honestly myself hate the thoughts of killing a life I’ve had a hand in creating but I can’t put my values or beliefs upon someone else. It’s messy but it is what it is.

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              Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

              Bullshit! Complete utter bullshit.
              That is very intelligent argument. One only affects the subject. The other affects all of society.

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                pure nonsense , it was never even tested to stop transmission

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                  Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

                  Two completely different situations.
                  Can you explain please.

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                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

                    Can you explain please.
                    One is a personal , the other is societal.

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                      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                      Yes we all agree that murdering small children is wrong. That's a long way from termination of a life threatening pregnancy.
                      A life threatening pregnancy is one thing , agree , but that represents maybe 1% of abortions ??
                      vast majority are pure and simple selfishness situations, that are hiding behind the first

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                        My sister in law is one of them , zero conscious, zero accountability for her actions , 4 abortions .
                        the vast majority have absolutely zero to do with Women’s health
                        if one was so concerned about women’s health they would condemn men competing in women’s boxing , but not one will
                        it’s ludicrous

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                          I am all in favour of a women’s right to chose if a **** , serious health issues what not .
                          but simply just to have zero accountability, I have reservations about that big time .
                          it’s a very slippery slope

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