Cheap wind power ????

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Where is the question of , “Will this result in lower rates for consumers ?”

ya that one

In keeping with Chuck's theme, we will have to start referring to him as the pretend socialist.
As a far left NDP, he pretends to support the downtrodden lower and middle working class consumers at the expense of the evil capitalist corporations.
Meanwhile in every single instance, he comes out in favor of high cost energy, and taxpayera subsidies to unreliable energy companies which disproportionately punishes the working class while enriching the multinational corporations.

[furrowtickler]

Where is the question of , “Will this result in lower rates for consumers ?”

ya that one

[fjlip]

And humans add 3% of that .04% ....what does the other 97% do?

[fjlip]

More CO2 is better, more plants, healthier animals and people...

[chuckChuck]

A5 show us the detailed evidence and analysis that electricity prices are higher in Alberta because of all the wind and solar.

We are waiting.

All you have is "prices have gone up when renewables are in the mix". That's not analysis nor evidence of the impact of renewables. Prices have gone up for gas generation and hydro as well.

But what do you expect from a guy who says more CO2 in the atmosphere is good for us?

[chuckChuck]

More from Sask Power:

Don’t Wind And Solar Projects Have Short Lifespans?
Reality: The average lifespan of newer wind turbines is more than 30 years. For a solar facility, it’s also about 25 to 30 years. With good maintenance, that can be even longer!

Background: For a comparison, the average lifespan for a natural gas power station is also 25 to 30 years.

Aren’t They More Expensive?
Reality: When it comes to cost over their entire lifespan, the average cost of large-scale solar and wind generation is a lot less than other power sources.

Background: Federal tax incentives and other funding can also help lower the price for wind and solar projects. Plus, when we use wind and solar, we avoid paying carbon tax.

Is It True They’re Costly And Wasteful To Dispose Of?
Reality: Up to 90% of wind turbine parts (including the steel) are recyclable after they're taken apart. Recycling of solar panels is currently an emerging industry in Canada. Some provinces, like Alberta, have even started programs to reclaim expired solar panels. By the time our first large-scale solar facility reaches end of life, we expect the industry will be fully developed.

Background: Decommissioning all types of power facilities takes time and money and has environmental impacts.

Don’t They Create A Huge Carbon Footprint To Build?
Reality: The environmental impacts of building a wind or solar facility are similar to those of building a natural gas power station.

Background: The lifecycle of all power facilities includes materials, construction, operation and decommissioning. The lifecycle of wind and solar facilities produce fewer GHG emissions than the lifecycle of power plants that use coal or natural gas. Hydro and nuclear have low lifecycle GHG emissions too.

Aren’t They Harmful To Our Health?
Reality: There is no evidence linking health concerns to being near solar and wind facilities.

Background: Wind and solar facilities emit low-frequency Electric and Magnetic Fields (EMFs). That's the kind of EMFs that are present in most of the technology we use every day, like TVs and computers.
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[TSIPP]

SaskPower says “wind power is a cost-effective power source.”

SaskPower also says “with no emissions, this is an environmentally friendly renewable resource.”

but no mention of the true cost of generating wind power or what capacity the wind turbines produce.

or what environmental footprint the wind turbines have.

keeping us in the dark for what reason?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You know you could just concede that you have failed to find anywhere in the world where supposed lowest cost wind and solar don't make electricity more expensive.

You can present all of the theoretical modeled cost projections over and over again, but if the real world application completely contradict those claims in every single instance, perhaps The logical conclusion to draw is that the models are flawed and reality prevails.

But then if you accept that these failed models are useless, you would have to face the reality that all of the other models upon which your dogmatic belief system is based could also be flawed. The entire global warming belief is based on models. Covid and the vaccine were based on models. All of your socialist wet dreams are based on theoretical models which have never worked in reality.

[chuckChuck]

Lazards LCOE has the numbers you can look it up.

And Sask Power has the numbers to say solar and wind are the lowest cost sources.

If you dispute their numbers contact them!

I am sure you and the other arm chair experts can do their cost analysis for them!

Are you enjoying those higher electricity prices because of free market withholding in Alberta?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The dog ate Chuck's homework. And it's only the second day of school.

That wasn't an answer to my question, it was an excuse.