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Chuck answer the most important question, by delaying the election is it right for all the liberal and NDP MLA’s to get bigger pensions theat will massively cost the average taxpayer 100x more than PP’s earned pension?
answer directly, yes or no …simple
or continue to be a coward and deflect
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The Conservatives will benefit just as much as every other MP, if not more if they elect a large majority.
PP's pension is far larger than Singh's and I am betting PP doesn't really want to talk about his own gold plated pension!
Delaying the election for a few months has little impact on the total pension cost for all MPs. This is a red herring issue that only the impatient Conservatives in a hurry want to bring up.Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 3, 2024, 07:40.
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Originally posted by chuckChuck View PostThe Conservatives will benefit just as much as every other MP, if not more if they elect a large majority.
PP's pension is far larger than Singh's and I am betting PP doesn't really want to talk about his own gold plated pension!
Delaying the election for a few months has little impact on the total pension cost for all MPs. This is a red herring issue that only the impatient Conservatives in a hurry want to bring up.
Personally I see little benefit politically for Trudeau and Singh delaying an election. Are the NDP suddenly expecting more Canadians to donate to the party so they have an election war chest? Does Trudeau all of a sudden think Canadians will change their opinion of him? Canadian are just sick of Trudeau, that simple. The longer he hangs on the lower his polling numbers go.
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Its just politics and Harper, Poilivere and Conservatives played politics with elections as well!
Perhaps you forgot that Harper Prorogued Parliament to avoid a non confidence vote in 2008 and 2009?
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Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 3, 2024, 08:08.
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NDP is in the hole for $7 million and under $300 k cash. They’re broke and no money coming in. Liberals perhaps in the same boat? Prolonging the inevitable in hopes of building a war chest doesn’t appear to be the goal. Ensuring everyone gets a pension is more the reason.
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tell us why Harper porogeed ? had they scammed 400 million ? and what are the liberals on about now talking about charter rights for not handing over documents ? as it they know anything about charter rightsLast edited by cropgrower; Oct 4, 2024, 08:08.
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