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    #31
    If anything is indicative folks are craving change. Argue the semantics all you want but the reaping is in the fall air. Even here in good ol’ Sask the harvest of souls is to start tomorrow before Halloween for that matter. I shudder to think of the reds populating the majority but change is change and probably in the long run is better but the short term it sucks.

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      #32
      No matter who gets in where is the money going to come from that is needed to fill the bottomless pit (black hole) of healthcare? Its a beast with an insatiable appetite. Seems the more you feed it the hungrier it gets.

      Hard to increase the population without increasing the demand on healthcare.

      Is the irrigation expansion project actually going to pay back? Isn't there enough irrigated land that could be allocated away from commodity crops to grow specialty crops? If specialty crops are indeed the reason for irrigation expansion. Or would those funds be better allocated to healthcare and education.

      Dare I say, is there any possible savings or efficiencies that could be gained by doing things different in the health and education systems? I'm not for a minute suggesting reducing their budgets but looking at ways of doing things different. What percent of the Sask budget is dedicated to education and healthcare?

      Each political party can promise what ever they want, obviously some don't stand a chance at forming government. The only two real contenders can also chirp what ever tune they think the voters want to hear. But the next day after the election, who ever won has to deal with reality....

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        #33
        Over the last few years I have had some use of the healthcare system. Between ailing Mothers, Mother-in-law, Aunts, and family. I can say the good nurses and doctors really stand out.

        Then there are the rest. They need to mandate that phones only come out on break. Just saying.

        Also during covid they kept warning about the potential collapse of the Healthcare system. In our local hospital it was often empty or at 25% capacity. Hardly an over worked situation.

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          #34
          So LEP are you saying there was no healthcare crisis in hospitals during the covid pandemic because your little hospital was not busy?

          Health care officials would dispute that suggestion. Most hospitals were full of covid patients with alot in the ICU and many elective surgeries and procedures were delayed or cancelled.


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            #35
            I am saying there was a misallocation of resources. They needed to triage and then ship the less critical patients to the regional hospitals. The big city hospitals were the ones facing the big demand.

            It was the job of your buddies the health administrators that should have made those decisions. It is also your buddies that know about the rotating sick leave that allows Nurses to rack up huge OT. But nothing is done about it.

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              #36
              LEP, where is your evidence to say it was a misallocation of resources and not the overwhelming volume of covid patients and sick healthcare workers absent from work?

              Who in the healthcare field said resources and the under use of rural facilities was the problem? We are waiting for your answer.

              Big city hospitals have the equipment and specialists to keep severely ill patients breathing. Just like with many other services, they have centralized the more advanced care to bigger centres.

              If you have a car accident, heart attack, stroke or cancer do you want to be in a small centre without all the bells and whistles of advanced health care, or do you want to be in a city hospital?

              And its the Sask party and Scott Moe who is responsible for the mess we are in. Nobody else has their power to make changes.

              It cost them a lot of seats.


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                #37
                Through covid I was in the hospital overnight with a relative twice. We were the only ones once and one of five another time. I asked the head nurse is this unusual and she said no since covid this is what is considered normal.

                She is awesome by the way. Late thirties and could run the place by herself. Then the 6 behind the counter can't be bothered to look up from their phones as you come to ask a question.

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                  #38
                  more absolute garbage from cc , NDP have been in power in manitoba over a year and healthcare has been steadily getting worse

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                    #39
                    And how were the wait times before the NDP after several terms of the Conservatives?

                    Tell the who story Crop!

                    1 year is not enough time to fix much in healthcare unless you think like Crop! LOL

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                      #40
                      wait times were bad and keep getting worse , Surely the wonderful NDP could have done something to stop healthcare getting even worse , fixing it i cant see ever happening under any government , we need the gatekeepers removed and a option of private also

                      and cc is healthcare perfect in BC ? they have had NDP government for many years
                      Last edited by cropgrower; Oct 31, 2024, 08:56.

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                        #41
                        To be fair: How fast do you expect government to reduce waiting time in ER and wait lists for surgery? As I have mentioned before, when I took a class in health economics, taught by Jack Boan, he emphasized that “rationing” is one of the ways to reduce use of health care. There are many people who live to darken the doorstep of our health care providers. Some people have an insatiable appetite for care. If the government provided a limitless supply of healthcare, our economy wouldn’t be spending 35% of the budget on healthcare, costs would probably double. That is not to say that we should have no health care but just playing devil’s advocate.

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                          #42
                          When the federal government shoves an extra million people into an already stressed health care , education and housing shortage what did they expect the outcome would be ?

                          meanwhile throwing massive amounts of taxpayer money overseas , huge corruption within their own government through arrive scam , green slush funds and countless other unaccountable black holes leaving no money to help their own taxpayers and provinces deal with an obvious problem they created
                          Last edited by furrowtickler; Oct 31, 2024, 13:17.

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                            #43
                            Probably million extra people per year, I can’t find a doctor, I’ll start looking in smaller towns, maybe I can find one that’s not overbooked.

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                              #44
                              Then add in a failed drug policy that has led to a massive increase in hospital admissions and bingo , there is there double whammy strain on health care

                              thanks Liberal / NDP coalition

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                                #45
                                The provinces have under funded healthcare and procedures.

                                We knew about the baby boom and the impact it would have and yet governments sat back and waited.

                                And Conservative and Liberal governments have all supported significant amounts of immigration that has added a lot of demand.

                                And then covid and the aftermath burnt out so many workers that they have trouble retaining workers let alone hiring new ones. There is still a covid backlog of surgeries to get through.

                                We need to train more doctors and nurses. Except provinces are cutting the funding to post secondary education too.

                                Without enough primary care doctors and clinics many people end up in the ER and hospitals.

                                Without enough long term care many seniors tie up hospital beds that should be in long term care.

                                All this takes more training, spaces and money!
                                Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 1, 2024, 08:06.

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