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    Trumps Former Chief of Staff Call him a Fascist

    US election briefing: ex-chief of staff Former General John Kelly says Trump fits the ‘definition of fascist’
    Two weeks out from election day Donald Trump's former chief of staff has claimed his one-time boss “falls into the general definition of fascist”.

    John Kelly, a former Marine general and presidential aide from 2017 to 2019, made the extraordinary intervention on Tuesday in a series of coordinated interviews. Speaking to the New York Times he said the former Republican president “prefers the dictator approach to government” and is the “only president that has all but rejected what America is all about”.

    Speaking to the Atlantic, Kelly recounted Trump saying he wished his military personnel showed him the same deference Nazi generals showed Adolf Hitler. Trump’s campaign denied the exchange, with an adviser telling CNN: “This is absolutely false. President Trump never said this.”

    Democratic vice-presidential nominee Tim Walz said the reported comments about Hitler’s generals “makes me sick as hell”. “Folks, the guardrails are gone,” Walz told a rally in Wisconsin on Tuesday. “Trump is descending into this madness.”

    ​Kelly has long been critical of Trump and previously accused him of calling veterans killed in combat "suckers" and "losers." His new warnings emerged as Trump seeks a second term vowing to dramatically expand his use of the military at home and suggesting he would use force to go after Americans he considers "enemies from within."

    "He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to the Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing [Hitler] did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.

    ​“Well, looking at the definition of fascism: It’s a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy,” Kelly said. “So certainly, in my experience, those are the kinds of things that he thinks would work better in terms of running America.”

    Kelly continued: “Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure.”
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 24, 2024, 07:27.

    #2
    And all we get is crickets from the Trump supporters?



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      #3
      What Trump supporters? Did you forget this was a Canadian forum inhabited by canadians?

      What do you think about the ongoing Liberal coup to remove trudeau?

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        #4
        Yeah Donnie Dump or Camel Toe they’re both increasingly isolationist towards Canada. We can’t vote in the American election nor do we live there so our perspective is whatever confirmation bias we like to envelope ourselves in. If it’s a matter of a general discussion fine enough but Chuck you’re baiting again to justify your crusade of discrediting everyone here who disagrees with you.

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          #5
          I don't pay much attention to all the drama in the US election.
          Seems one candidate is a puppet that is like a parrot and repeats the same phrase day after day.
          The other doesn't know when to shut up.

          You pasted a great example of a hit piece that comes out every day in the media.
          All just shocking.
          Both candidates are portrayed as deviants of one type or another.

          What I am hoping to see is Musk having a chance at his DOGE.
          Department of Government Efficiency.
          A look at where all the money disappears to?

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            #6
            Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
            Chuck you’re baiting again to justify your crusade of discrediting everyone here who disagrees with you.
            And in true leftist fashion, chuck had to include the disclaimer that everyone I disagree with is a fascist.

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              #7
              copy and paste,

              Total meltdown tonight at the Harris-Walz campaign:
              - the Hitler hoax didn’t gain any traction; they’ve already overplayed that hand.
              - the “f-ing Mexican” hoax backfired, with the sister of murdered soldier Vanessa Guillén going on National TV and calling Harris and the Atlantic out for politicizing her sister’s death.
              - the “he grabbed my ass 32 years ago” hoax unraveled in less than an hour and is being universally mocked.
              - a new WSJ journal poll released tonight shows Kamala losing the popular vote by 3 points.
              - Kamala bombed the CNN Town Hall which was supposed to be her opportunity to present her closing argument to undecided voters.
              The joy is gone.​

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                #8
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

                And in true leftist fashion, chuck had to include the disclaimer that everyone I disagree with is a fascist.
                Godwin’s law

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                  A look at where all the money disappears to?
                  It appears as though that is what these propagandists such as Chuck are most afraid of.

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                    #10
                    So Chuck,
                    im not gonna support trump.... BUT its important to get some context here. Especially because im just a bit tired of the left always bashing media outlets that are right slanted and it seems that the left media outlets dont get the same scrutiny * to me anyways*.
                    THE ATLANTIC is owned by...laurene powel jobs as in, the ex wife Steve jobs. She is a SUPER denocrat donator AND a billionaire.The Atlanric also JUST came under fire after it was caught lying about what trump had said in regards about a slain mexican who was killed af Fort Hood.
                    Incredibly, trump has maintsined a strong pro israely stance and support of the jew community. While just last year biden dropped sanctions that opened up roughly 10 billion dollars to Iran that was blocked by US sanctions.
                    So..

                    To be fair.
                    Whos being honesf and truthful here?
                    John kelly ALSO

                    In January 2017, The Intercept reported that Kelly failed to disclose his position as vice-chair on the Spectrum Group, a defense contractor lobbying firm, on his ethics form, while taking a position at the Department of Homeland Security.[63] Kelly's membership on the board of DC Capital Partners and its for-profit detention facilities at the Southern Border and Florida, operated by its subsidiary Caliburn International had called into question his neutrality as they have been described as private for-profit concentration camps.[64] Caliburn CEO James Van Dusen said, "With four decades of military and humanitarian leadership, in-depth understanding of international affairs and knowledge of current economic drivers around the world, General Kelly is a strong strategic addition to our team." Candidates in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries objected, including Cory Booker, who said Kelly's actions in joining the board were "disgusting," and Elizabeth Warren, who called his role, "corruption at its absolute worst."[65] In July 2019, the House Oversight Committee announced it was probing Kelly's conflict of interest in the camps while he was the White House Chief
                    of Staff.


                    Kelly may have been a good man and a good soldier...but hes not exactly what one would call honest.

                    I believe i heard that the last poll results show that trump should gain the largest # of jewish votes for a president since 1980. ( jews generally vote democrat).

                    The Athletic is democrat owned so its important to remember that....

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                      #11
                      13 former staff members have signed an open letter backing Kelly.

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                        #12
                        The US election is not relevant to Canada? LOL

                        Then you won't care if Harris elected?

                        What about dual citizens not to mention ex pats from the US living in Canada?

                        And what happens in US politics does matter in Canada.

                        Protectionist measures are a real threat. Along with a lot of other cross border issues.



                        Trump and his team chose Kelly as a Chief of Staff.

                        And he saw first hand that Donnie was leaning towards fascism as reported in NY Times among other media outlets

                        But of course none of this matters to the far right who are sympathetic to fascism and cheering him on.

                        Our world war 2 veterans are rolling over in their graves after Trump said "Hitler did some good things"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          "Hitler did some good things"
                          You seriously believe this?

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                            #14
                            That's what Kelly said Trump said several times.

                            Kelly and several generals have said Trump isn't fit to be president.

                            Trump lies and denies just about everything!

                            And Trump also said there was good people in Charlottesville NC in the white supremacist neo nazi rally!

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                              #15
                              Trump’s former Pentagon chief suggests Trump has earned ‘fascist’ label

                              And then there were three: Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper is the latest former member of Donald Trump's team to say he’s earned the "fascist" label.

                              Its not looking good when at least 3 of his hand picked team call him a fascist on the public record!

                              Retired Gen. Mark Milley, for example, whom Trump tapped to serve as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently declared on the record that he now believes the Republican candidate is “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country.” It was a week later when Kelly also said that Trump meets the “definition of ‘fascist’” and “prefers the dictator approach to government.”

                              Making matters worse, the duo has become a trio.


                              Last edited by chuckChuck; Oct 25, 2024, 07:20.

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