How oil-rich Texas became a leader in renewable energy, while Alberta hit the brakes

[chuckChuck]

Germany has pushed hard imposing limits and taxes on fossil fuels and legislating more renewable electricity. In Chuck2’s world Germany should have leading economic growth but the opposite is true. Germany is experiencing its second year of reduced growth. Is it possible the energy transition does not create more jobs and prosperity? Maybe government directing the economy isn’t the answer? I am not surprised.

Except that argument doesn't work for Texas Hamloc. Lots of new clean energy jobs and a strong economy!

So maybe try to think before you post about Germany as a bogus example of the failure of clean energy and ignore Texas!

And did you forget about why Germany wants to transition away from Russian gas?
I think so!

But then you and some of your Republican friends think Putin, Kim Jong Un and Iran are apparently not that bad and Ukraine should cede territory to the former soviet union era leader! LOL

[Hamloc]

Except that argument doesn't work for Texas Hamloc. Lots of new clean energy jobs and a strong economy!

So maybe try to think before you post about Germany as a bogus example of the failure of clean energy and ignore Texas!

And did you forget about why Germany wants to transition away from Russian gas?
I think so!

But then you and some of your Republican friends think Putin, Kim Jong Un and Iran are apparently not that bad and Ukraine should cede territory to the former soviet union era leader! LOL

Did you read the articles I posted about Volkswagen? I think there are many reasons Texas has a strong economy. They have a much further right leaning government than Germany. Hmmm, no carbon tax. No sales tax either. And did you forget Texas has a Republican Governor?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And Texas has sun and wind resources among the best in the world. Germany has some of the poorest.

[chuckChuck]

Plus Texas has lots of renewables! You forgot that part! LOL

Yup and Alberta has a strong economy too, similar to Texas.

Primarily because with government subsidies and incentives they developed one of the most important and highly valuable resources of the 20th century.

It's now the 21st century and climate change is one of the biggest threats to the world economy and demand for oil.

And guess what, you got all your eggs in one basket and you have gone from boom to bust for many decades without saving almost any of the one time resource revenue like the true fiscal conservatives have in Norway. Even Alaska does a better job of managing resource income.

Are you sure Alberta will survive with a strong economy into the 22nd century when Albertan and Prime Minister Harper said Canada will stop burning fossil fuels for energy by the year 2100?
By then the oil well and tar sands clean up liability bill could be a trillion dollars and Alberta could be a have not province if they don't diversify the economy.

The lenders and shareholders to the oil industry should be on the hook for that liability which will bankrupt the province the way its going!

[shtferbrains]

It's almost as if modern advanced economies are built on cheap energy.

We send coal to Asia so they can provide us with renewable energy source to replace existing efficient and paid for energy production infrastructure.
We aren't reducing CO2 production we are exporting it along with our industry.
But we are the most virtuous?

You are being misled.
More can see it now.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

We send coal to Asia so they can provide us with renewable energy source to replace existing efficient and paid for energy production infrastructure.
We aren't reducing CO2 production we are exporting it along with our industry.
But we are the most virtuous?

You are being misled.
More can see it now.

Probably just a coincidence that China is the net beneficiary of our suicidal energy policies, and that there is also a scandal about Chinese interfering in our elections, while the liberals do everything they can to block any investigation into the interference.

[sumdumguy]

To be fair, I think southern US is well situated to harness the sun’s rays and turn those rays into power but here we have few months where the rays are abundant enough and panels are not covered by ice crystals, ice and snow. Can we depend on green energy to consistently endow us with uninterrupted energy - I don’t think so at this time.

[TSIPP]

We send coal to Asia so they can provide us with renewable energy source to replace existing efficient and paid for energy production infrastructure.
We aren't reducing CO2 production we are exporting it along with our industry.
But we are the most virtuous?

You are being misled.
More can see it now.

Looks like coal is king.

[furrowtickler]

Texas has 10% of Alberta’s winter

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Ukraine should cede territory to the former soviet union era leader! LOL

Your incoherent rambling probably doesn't justify a response, but I am curious about your grasp of History, so I'll ask anyways.

Which former Soviet leader are you referring to? The Ukrainian Bhreznev? The Ukrainian Khruzshchev? The Georgian stalin?

[furrowtickler]

Plus Texas has lots of renewables! You forgot that part! LOL

Yup and Alberta has a strong economy too, similar to Texas.

Primarily because with government subsidies and incentives they developed one of the most important and highly valuable resources of the 20th century.

It's now the 21st century and climate change is one of the biggest threats to the world economy and demand for oil.

And guess what, you got all your eggs in one basket and you have gone from boom to bust for many decades without saving almost any of the one time resource revenue like the true fiscal conservatives have in Norway. Even Alaska does a better job of managing resource income.

Are you sure Alberta will survive with a strong economy into the 22nd century when Albertan and Prime Minister Harper said Canada will stop burning fossil fuels for energy by the year 2100?
By then the oil well and tar sands clean up liability bill could be a trillion dollars and Alberta could be a have not province if they don't diversify the economy.

The lenders and shareholders to the oil industry should be on the hook for that liability which will bankrupt the province the way it’s going!

You do realize Harper may be right …… 75 years from now

[chuckChuck]

An admission by Furrow that Harper's G7 commitment to end the burning of fossil fuels by 2100 is probably right!

Hell just froze over!

To get there we will need to transition by reducing fossil fuel use over the next decades. How fast that transition will occur is not clear. But it looks like Furrow agrees the transition is coming and well underway.

Like wise Alberta and Saskatchewan premiers say they can get to net zero electricity generation by 2050. Only 25 years away.

In all these cases these Conservative leaders must accept that climate change is real and a threat, otherwise they would be doing nothing.

So when are the rest of you skeptics and deniers going to accept the science and admit that CO2 causes climate change?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Europe is currently enjoying the highest electricity prices they've had since the peak of 2022. Apparently destroying all of those fossil fuel and nuclear plants and replacing them with wind doesn't work when the wind stops blowing.

The Germans even have a word for this.
Dunkelflaute

Seems like a fitting nickname for our troll.

[Hamloc]

And now today Germany’s government has collapsed. Hmmm can’t seem to get government’s finances in order.

[chuckChuck]

So high energy prices in Europe have nothing to do with Russia's invasion of the Ukraine and the transition away from Russian gas and oil to more expensive supplies? LOL

Of course the only reason is renewable energy! According to the arm chair libertarian expert in Alberta who now wants to pick winners and losers instead of letting the market decide!

The flat earthers want to ignore free market Texas, where wind and solar are being chosen over other more expensive options because of economics!

And Crop is looking forward to the neo nazi and far right parties in Germany coming to power.

Just another day on Agrisilly!