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    #16
    You want me to prove that something that is fiction is false? Give us one example of a rigged election.

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      #17
      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

      There is no data to support those claims other than internet conspiracies. If you wish to live in that world , go for it. I would rather live in the real world.
      which claim?

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        #18
        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
        You want me to prove that something that is fiction is false? Give us one example of a rigged election.
        I'm not the one making claims about rigged elections.

        A990 suggests that migrants have been disproportionately settled in swing states. It should be easy to find the data of their distribution throughout the country to disprove that. It would make for a much more mature, informed and effective counter argument, than going full chuckChuck.

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          #19
          No proof that illegals vote. It is hard enough to get citizens to vote. It is easy to point fingers when you lose.

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            #20
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            No proof that illegals vote. It is hard enough to get citizens to vote. It is easy to point fingers when you lose.
            Super difficult to get people out. Even with advanced polls and mail in ballots last provincial election here in Sask was 54%. Thought with advanced poll numbers that figure would be higher and a change for sure to come. Biggest enemy of democracy is apathy and ignorance. Every conspiracy out there implicating both sides of an election is not without a sliver of truth at one point in history. However, to use it as a basis the system is rigged further erodes democracy.

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              #21
              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
              No proof that illegals vote.
              That is a very bold claim to make.

              It would only take one instance to prove that statement wrong.

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                #22
                Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

                Super difficult to get people out. Even with advanced polls and mail in ballots last provincial election here in Sask was 54%. Thought with advanced poll numbers that figure would be higher and a change for sure to come. Biggest enemy of democracy is apathy and ignorance. Every conspiracy out there implicating both sides of an election is not without a sliver of truth at one point in history. However, to use it as a basis the system is rigged further erodes democracy.
                don't dismiss the people who genuinely believe that it doesn't matter who gets elected. very few promises are kept and even the best eventually get corrupted or just burned out and quit GAF. perhaps if there was a "None of the above " for an actually protest vote it would help get people out....haha who am i kidding

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                  #23
                  Why would they vote? To be jailed or deported? How many would be needed to affect an election? Just another stupid Trump conspiracy.

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                    #24
                    Trying to follow along with agstar's argument this morning.
                    Started out with claiming it's a conspiracy theory that migrants are being strategically placed to influence elections. When pressed to defend that they aren't being disproportionately located in swing States, changed the story to, surely are being disproportionately located in swing states, but they never vote. When asked about that, change the story to they don't vote in large enough numbers to affect the outcome. Then finally circled back to it's all a conspiracy from trump because he can't actually prove any of his assertions, or disprove the other side. You've made Chuck very proud.
                    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Nov 2, 2024, 09:15.

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                      #25
                      So in other words , none of my statements are wrong. You just oppose them on principal. I did not go down the rabbit hole of rigged by computer elections or rigged by imaginary migrant voting. You would make a good clone of lentil.
                      Last edited by agstar77; Nov 2, 2024, 09:31.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                        Why would they vote? To be jailed or deported? How many would be needed to affect an election? Just another stupid Trump conspiracy.
                        ..one side would grant them amnesty the other might deport.....hmm
                        ..answer to second question appears to be not many in a swing state

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                          #27
                          some blindly believe whatever the TV says , no critical thinking whatsoever , everything else is a conspiracy

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                            some blindly believe whatever the TV says , no critical thinking whatsoever , everything else is a conspiracy
                            So you believe everything on TV is fake. That explains everything. You remind me of the JWs going door to door with their truth pamphlets. They were the only ones that knew how you should live and what you should believe.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

                              So you believe everything on TV is fake. That explains everything. You remind me of the JWs going door to door with their truth pamphlets. They were the only ones that knew how you should live and what you should believe.
                              no i don't believe everything on TV is fake , but i have been around long enough to know lots is , their is two side to every story and most things are not black and white ,
                              usually where the censorship is happening , thats where the truth is ,
                              but anyhow aggy let the government tell you how to think
                              life will be simpler that way

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                                #30
                                Fox lost big time on their lies about Dominion voting machines. $800 million dollar fine. So apparently the court case was evidence enough for a judge that they are just fine!

                                Next Illegal voting:

                                Fact check: Debunked video claiming to show illegal voting linked to organized disinformation effort
                                [url]https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-fact-check-debunked-video-claiming-to-show-illegal-voting-linked-to/[/url]

                                A misleading video posted on X alongside claims that “illegal Haitian immigrants” had voted multiple times in Georgia has been debunked by officials ([url]https://x.com/GaSecofState/status/1852140776882315763)and[/url] linked to Russian disinformation efforts.

                                Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office said the video was likely a “production of Russian troll farms” in a statement on Thursday. “This is false, and is an example of targeted disinformation we’ve seen this and other elections. It is likely foreign interference attempting to sow discord and chaos on the eve of the 2024 presidential election,” the statement said.

                                Cases of non-citizens voting are statistically rare ([url]https://www.npr.org/2024/10/12/nx-s1-5147789/voting-election-2024-noncitizen-fact-check-trump[/url]), and they have not historically occurred in numbers that would affect the outcome of any race. The Brennan Center for Justice ([url]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/noncitizen-voting-missing-millions[/url]), which advocates for voting rights, surveyed local election officials in 42 jurisdictions with high immigrant populations after the 2016 election. It found only 30 cases of suspected non-citizens voting, out of 23.5 million votes cast, or 0.0001 per cent.​

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