Sudden Death

[fjlip]

This farm was WAY ahead of curve.... Had Wind generator from 1945 to 1957!

Then Sask power put it all into the GARBAGE with electricity!!!!!

Screw going backwards in time.

I can still SMELL the acid batteries in the basement over charged when windy!

Dad had to climb 40' tower to fix/oil stuff.

[WiltonRanch]

This farm was WAY ahead of curve.... Had Wind generator from 1945 to 1957!

Then Sask power put it all into the GARBAGE with electricity!!!!!

Screw going backwards in time.

I can still SMELL the acid batteries in the basement over charged when windy!

Dad had to climb 40' tower to fix/oil stuff.

It’s kinda funny how these environmentalist types espouse living a lot like what older people lived like in the countryside years ago. Folks were off grid not by choice but by necessity. Didn’t take long for them to adapt to electricity and fossil fuel. Naivety is abundant. I’m a young pup but spent my summers in a camper and to this day there is no bloody way I will go camping for fun.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hamloc, for years you have been pointing out that the inevitable result of adding unreliable energy to the grid would be complete redundancy of all generation as back up.
I see Alberta is already there. We now have far more than twice as much generation capacity as peak consumption on a typical day.
???????Only necessary because with all of the weather dependent generation offline as of today, we've lost 1/3 of our entire generation capacity.

[Hamloc]

Hamloc, for years you have been pointing out that the inevitable result of adding unreliable energy to the grid would be complete redundancy of all generation as back up.
I see Alberta is already there. We now have far more than twice as much generation capacity as peak consumption on a typical day.
Only necessary because with all of the weather dependent generation offline as of today, we've lost 1/3 of our entire generation capacity.

Quite correct AF5. Chuck2 constantly preaches on how Solar and Wind are the cheapest source of electrical generation. But the reality is that that is not true. For every kilowatt of wind or solar you install you must install an equivalent kilowatt of generation like natural gas that is reliably available 24/7 365 days a year. On paper adding wind and solar increases your generation capacity but in reality that is only true once the additional kilowatt of reliable power is added as well. So the end result is higher capital investment with renewables and more expensive electricity as the end result.