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    #37
    It's a mess Chuck. I truly believe there have been improvements. There may be more racism in the older generation than the today's young adults.

    Not all Germans were Nazis but it can be hard to shake the stigma and "association".

    There has been racism as long as there has been different races and ethnic groups, how long have Middle East nations, ethnic AND RELIGIOUS groups been at each other's throats?

    What took generations to create in Canada will take generations to unwind in my opinion. I would never expect this situation to turn on a dime. All I can hope for is progress, ON BOTH SIDES! In my opinion the path is forward looking through the windsheild, not in the past spending more time looking through the rearview mirror. That being said, we must not neglect/forget what happened to cause the predicament/dilemma today.

    There is a current indigenous leader who seems more forward thinking/looking than another who seems to dwell in the past of victimhood.

    Just my "opinion". No one has to agree.

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      #38
      Hutterites are looked at differently and watched in stores.

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        #39
        I know a store owner and she said by far the worst time for shoplifting is when a large group of kids come in together after school or a sports event etc , near impossible to watch a group , is she now racist against kids because she tries to minimize theft based on past experience ?
        Last edited by cropgrower; Dec 11, 2024, 14:05.

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          #40
          Statistically very safe firearm ownership issues have nothing to do with self defense.
          Like vaccines, turning them into one ensures the loss of the discussion.
          Trust me, remote areas of my province where a firearm may or may not be within reach aren't going to change soon. It's just got nothing to do with the bans.

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            #41
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            There is systemic racism in the justice system when it comes to first nations.

            And of course there are white folks have no experience with racism but are pretty sure it exists because the CBC says it's getting worse?
            You live in Saskatchewan Chuck?
            You are surrounded by FN's but I'm betting you don't know a single family?
            Have you ever had a friend come up and shake your hand and start a conversation?
            Do you see them all as poor marginalized and racially discriminated?

            How did you get to be such an expert?

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              #42
              And of course white folks who have no experience with racism but are pretty sure it doesn't exist nor is a problem for first nations?
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Dec 14, 2024, 08:38.

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                #43
                you of all people cc are in no position to talk about racism
                while you lash out and put your hate on full display
                and yell insults at anybody with a different opinion
                fake left tolerance

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                  you of all people cc are in no position to talk about racism
                  while you lash out and put your hate on full display
                  and yell insults at anybody with a different opinion
                  fake left tolerance
                  And while he repeatedly tells immigrants they should go back to where they came from.

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                    #45
                    Crop and A5 sure don't like to be challenged so they change the subject and make up crap!

                    How does what I said below have anything to do with hate? It's the exact opposite! It's saying we have a problem with our justice system. And all you can do is deny racism exists?

                    And I know first nations people who have experienced overt racism and I can read their first hand accounts of their treatment. And Crop thinks I shouldn't stand up and say its wrong?


                    "There is systemic racism in the justice system when it comes to first nations.

                    "The jury in the Stanley case was comprised of all white-appearing jurors. In the selection of this jury all Indigenous-appearing potential jurors were excluded using peremptory challenges."

                    You walk in a store and you are treated differently. And you are watched as a suspected shoplifter just because of who you are. That happens frequently to first nations.

                    And of course white folks have no experience with racism but are pretty sure it doesn't exist nor is a problem for first nations? "

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                      #46
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Australia showed that tougher gun laws and enforcement reduces gun deaths.

                      And Downunder said its accepted and not that big of deal in Australia.

                      But the gun lobby in Canada is directly influenced by the gun manufacturers in the US who argue against more restrictions every time because they want to sell more guns!
                      Right next door is New Zealand. They brought in a gun ban in 2019. Below is an excerpt from a recent National Post article.

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                        #47
                        Hamloc yours is unreadable and changing the subject but here is the point I made in response to the hotheads!

                        Crop and A5 sure don't like to be challenged so they change the subject and make up crap!

                        How does what I said below have anything to do with hate? It's the exact opposite! It's saying we have a problem with our justice system. And all you can do is deny racism exists?

                        And I know first nations people who have experienced overt racism and I can read their first hand accounts of their treatment. And Crop thinks I shouldn't stand up and say its wrong?


                        "There is systemic racism in the justice system when it comes to first nations.

                        "The jury in the Stanley case was comprised of all white-appearing jurors. In the selection of this jury all Indigenous-appearing potential jurors were excluded using peremptory challenges."

                        You walk in a store and you are treated differently. And you are watched as a suspected shoplifter just because of who you are. That happens frequently to first nations.

                        And of course white folks have no experience with racism but are pretty sure it doesn't exist nor is a problem for first nations? "
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                          #48
                          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                          Hamloc yours is unreadable and changing the subject but here is the point I made in response to the hotheads!

                          Crop and A5 sure don't like to be challenged so they change the subject and make up crap!

                          How does what I said below have anything to do with hate? It's the exact opposite! It's saying we have a problem with our justice system. And all you can do is deny racism exists?

                          And I know first nations people who have experienced overt racism and I can read their first hand accounts of their treatment. And Crop thinks I shouldn't stand up and say its wrong?


                          "There is systemic racism in the justice system when it comes to first nations.

                          "The jury in the Stanley case was comprised of all white-appearing jurors. In the selection of this jury all Indigenous-appearing potential jurors were excluded using peremptory challenges."

                          You walk in a store and you are treated differently. And you are watched as a suspected shoplifter just because of who you are. That happens frequently to first nations.


                          And of course white folks have no experience with racism but are pretty sure it doesn't exist nor is a problem for first nations? "
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                          I will quote the article for you then: “New Zealand conducted a similar but more extensive, gun ban and buyback in 2019. New Zealand had 1216 violent firearm offences in 2023. That’s 349 more offences than the year before the buyback.”
                          ”All of this only confirms what experts have said from the beginning: This costs a lot of money, but won’t make Canada safer.”
                          ”The gun ban is not working, said the president of the Toronto Police Association. We should focus on criminals.”

                          And for context the original post was about the gun ban and buyback.

                          Last edited by Hamloc; Dec 15, 2024, 09:05.

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