Ukraine donation

[blackpowder]

Thought you may be interested to know that more semi-auto rifles added to the banned list. SKS used by many First Nations planned for spring.
Ukraine government has been contacted and will accept our donations of acceptable buy backs.
Damn I feel safer and a Samaritan.
We should all turn out our pockets for programs like this. Billions...
In other news, shootings up in Toronto. Crickets. Our border fine right?

[TSIPP]

I’m wondering what kind of crime is committed with an 80 year old rifle, I get a warm fuzzy feeling from knowing the turd keeps us safe.

[shtferbrains]

The gangs have benefited from catch and release policy,
Sask always has an high rural crime rate with the gangs taking over out on the rez.

This chart is not easy but 2015 when more gun control comes in everything goes up.
The handgun homicide and gang related track closely.
They aren't carrying assault rifles .
Except the line along the bottom which is the group that they are regulating/ criminalizing.

[furrowtickler]

Black market guns sales about to reach record levels in some “special areas”

[biglentil]

Land of the comrades.

[TSIPP]

I’ll bet every SKS in the gun stores will be sold within a few months.

[chuckChuck]

"Every Liberal firearms policy change resulted in an increase to homicide" Huh?

That's very misleading language.

The changes to gun laws did not cause the rise, it's purely an association because gun crimes are rising for other reasons.

So all gun deaths under Harper went from about 175 to 350 per year under Trudeau.
That's a really small number compared to the over 20,000 per year in the US and over 40,000 if you include suicides.

If our gun deaths were 10 times larger to match the population of the US that should be about 3500 per year.

So the US has a rate 6 times larger per capita. The US is where Republicans and the gun lobby argue against more background checks that results in very large numbers of mass shootings because of the easy access to guns and semi automatic assault rifles with large magazine capacity.

Australian gun laws are much more restrictive and have reduced gun deaths.


Australia's gun laws include:

• Firearm licensing: A license is required to possess or use a firearm, and the license holder must demonstrate a "genuine reason" for owning the firearm. Self-defense is not considered a genuine reason.

• Firearm registration: All firearms must be registered to their licensed owner by serial number.
• Firearm sales: Private firearm sales are prohibited, and each gun transfer must be approved by a licensed arms dealer after the police are satisfied of a genuine reason for ownership.
• Firearm types: Certain types of weapons are banned, including automatic and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
• Firearm buyback program: A gun buyback program was instituted to take automatic and semi-automatic rifles and shotguns out of public circulation.
• Firearm waiting period: A 28-day waiting period is required for gun sales.

Australia's gun laws were reformed after a mass shooting in Tasmania in 1996. The reforms have led to:

• A decrease in gun homicides by 60%

• A decrease in the proportion of Australians who hold a gun license
• A decrease in the number of mass shootings
• A decrease in household firearm ownership

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[Hamloc]

Australia is your argument Chuck2? You have a country that is an island versus Canada which shares a relatively unprotected border, one of the longest in the world, with the U.S.!

My sister has lived there for over 20 years. They have much better access to healthcare in Australia. They have the ability to purchase healthcare insurance which gives them quicker access to service. I don’t hear you touting this!

The simple reality as far as guns nothing Justin Trudeau has done or is doing will make Canadians any safer. The gun confiscation laws are simply violating the ownership rights of legally abiding gun ownership to appease a small vocal minority. It won’t take guns out of the hands of any criminals as is evidenced by the above statistics!

[cropgrower]

first comes registration ,next confiscation and then tyranny

[chuckChuck]

If it was up to most of you wanna be republicans we would have US gun laws by now.

What do you need assault rifles for except to play soldier and look at them?

A good hunter needs a good hunting rifle with a small magazine.

[Hamloc]

If it was up to most of you wanna be republicans we would have US gun laws by now.

What do you need assault rifles for except to play soldier and look at them?

A good hunter needs a good hunting rifle with a small magazine.

Chuck2 what reality do you live in? We are already limited to a clip with a maximum of 5 shells. Shutting down the legal sale of handguns has done nothing to decrease their availability. It has simply made it more profitable for those selling illegal guns. Just because a gun looks more dangerous doesn’t make it more dangerous as with an assault rifle.

Handguns have been the most strictly controlled firearm for close to 100 years in Canada yet they are still the choice of criminals.

[chuckChuck]

Australia showed that tougher gun laws and enforcement reduces gun deaths.

And Downunder said its accepted and not that big of deal in Australia.

But the gun lobby in Canada is directly influenced by the gun manufacturers in the US who argue against more restrictions every time because they want to sell more guns!

[helmach]

Unpopular option, but a very very realistic possibility used to push political agendas! lies, lies and more lies.

[blackpowder]

I've never felt influenced by any lobby even tho they exist in another country.
Touring gun stores down here now I'm not interested in buying anything even if I could as I already have almost every flavor and gadget.

We're never going to agree on the issue. I'm pointing out the policy and tactics.SOP in politics to be sure.
I am one collector. One day legal property, the next not. $70,000 that I might see half of or not, we don't know.
Already far over budget and not one gun handled. Marc Lepine incidents mitigation had other tools. But no votes. But what's a few $B in spillage if I secure a vote?
Handguns now worthless. Collateral damage. Legal ownership risk always negligible.
Unless they're smuggled black market. Flourishing business.

By the time Little Potato gets his hands on any the Ukraine war will be over. Only a small fraction would've been remotely useful anyway. People so gullible.

What's on a OIC list tomorrow??
Let me look around your yard and think of something.

People on a colonial island can swoon over rights of the king but I might not.

[westernvicki]

Interesting conversation.
US citizen: nice everyday urban guy.
This was during the BLM unrest and concern for personal safety. I asked him about it.

He was not worried, his reply:

"We all have guns, my wife, my kids, and me. We learn how to use them.
We do not hunt."

Me: Why?

US citizen:
Self protection. Criminals know we have guns. Come to my door, we will use them to protect our family.

Wonder what the stats on home invasion are in Canada to the USA?