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    #16
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Who doesn't know wind and solar are intermittent sources Hamloc?

    Instead you waste our time picking low production days without looking at annual production and their overall contribution?

    Wind and solar are valuable sources of low carbon emisssion electricity that can cover a lot of our needs. Sure they need baseload, backup and storage, we knew that already.

    But every province in the country is planning on more renewables to increase supply. Why because they are lower cost quicker to build sources that reduce emissions.

    So its time for the naysayers to move on accept the reality that according to the International Energy Agency, new renewable investment world wide is much large than new investment in fossil fossil fuels.

    "The world now invests almost twice as much in clean energy as it does in fossil fuels…"

    [url]https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-investment-2024/overview-and-key-findings[/url]
    Chuck2 if you had any “integrity” you would admit that wind and solar are not the cheapest source of new electricity available 24 hours a day 365 days a year. Are they they cheapest source on their own when they are generating? Probably. But a solar field or a wind turbine is not an electricity generation system, it is only a component. The only reason they are popular at all is because they can be put up quickly(as opposed to hydro which can take decades) and the cost has come down because China has subsidized and undercut all other manufacturers. But as a system they increase costs because you have to incorporate another generation method be it natural gas, hydro or nuclear or all of the above which must be ramped up and down to compensate for wind and solar variability. The cost to the grid is elevated because these assets are run at less than full capacity but must exist to compensate for days of no wind and solar production. Regardless, still find it amusing you attacked the “integrity” of those that don’t share your outlook!

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      #17
      Economists in Alberta and Texas both have concluded renewables add low cost supply that reduces the cost of electricity to consumers.

      Sask Power has said they are the lowest cost way to add a lot of capacity.

      They are so low in cost and quick to build that the addition of extra capacity on top of other sources is not the defining determinate of consumer price.

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        #18
        The only reason they speak remotely favourably of them is to maintain their ESG goals and get free taxpayer subsidies to offset their supposed carbon emissions.
        IF the ESG were not forced down the throats of industry, investment in wind and solar would be minuscule.
        Good or bad that’s a fact

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          #19
          Furrow you are full of BS!

          Texas has lots of renewables because it makes economic sense.

          Alberta also invested heavily in renewables until Danny decided to stop it with red tape specifically designed to leave the oil industry's easy land access intact!

          A "free market" pro business government that picks winners and losers? What a laugh!

          And the oil industry also gets lots of subsidies and incentives!

          Suck it up Furrow!

          "The world now invests almost twice as much in clean energy as it does in fossil fuels…"

          [url]https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-investment-2024/overview-and-key-findings[/url]
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            #20
            When you say Alberta is heavily invested, who's money is it?

            And maybe check out how they market green power.
            Last edited by shtferbrains; Dec 20, 2024, 10:01.

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