Careful what you wish for: commodity groups ditch Sustainable Agriculture Strategy

[chuckChuck]

Simple if you ignore the taxpayers subsidies!
Now let BP check his math and use the correct and fair analysis instead of distorting it like you Hammy!

[Hamloc]

Simple if you ignore the taxpayers subsidies!
Now let BP check his math and use the correct and fair analysis instead of distorting it like you Hammy!

Please explain how if I spend more on crop insurance than I receive back in payments I am distorting the facts. The fact is my out of pocket insurance payments exceed what I have received in payments!! I am not complaining. I am thankful that in most years we get a decent crop.

[chuckChuck]

You are ignoring the crop insurance subsidies and are not paying the full cost! Taxpayers are helping you! Get it! Or would you rather pay the full cost?

[WiltonRanch]

You are ignoring the crop insurance subsidies and are not paying the full cost! Taxpayers are helping you! Get it! Or would you rather pay the full cost?

Question is how many other industries benefit from similar forms of subsidization? The other question if crop insurance premiums are subsidized then how was it possible for the ndp government of the day to dip into the pool to balance the books? You’d think if the Feds were providing 60% of the premium this might’ve been more of a creative accounting problem on the part of provincial governments.

[cropgrower]

And why does Sweden matter in the US and Canada who spent billions saving workers, businesses and people from untold hardship and bankruptcy.

Sweden has a much stronger safety net all the time! Are you proposing we adopt the nordic safety net programs?

lots of businesses were destroyed never again to reopen by the scamdemic

[blackpowder]

Pesky qualifiers. Not a subsidy to me. Or any neighbors I can think of. But once evey 20 years it allows me to pay bills. And provincial governments raid the surplus.
Last I checked I didn't have shite for brains.

[blackpowder]

Poor socialists pick up a rifle.
Affluent, a bullhorn.
Affluent socialists have the luxury of ignoring the rules of money. Productive dollars replaced with non producing dollars. Profit reviled. Because they're not hungry and their foil a pulpit.
Hate shadows reason for both.
Affluent socialists like Chuck, have other reasons for their hate.

[blackpowder]

I'm willing to farm without insurance if everyone else does. The affluent will be fine. But some will then karen on about industry consolidation.
Insurance only temporarily stabilizes it doesn't guarantee status quo.
Like the scene in Hell or High Water.
"What don't you want?"

[shtferbrains]

How much crop insurance do you buy Chuck?

None?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Rather than speculate, AFSC publishes the numbers.
Producers share of the premiums in 2023 was ~ $615 million. Total payouts were~ $1,002 billion .

So producers did receive 60% more back than they paid.

Since $615 is only 40% of the premium, the total premium would be over $1,500 million. So the taxpayer subsidy to the farmers pocket was $387 million. A lot smaller than the remaining $535 million premiums.

How much of that was a subsidy to the civil servants who administered the program? Looks like they may have received a bigger share of the subsidies than the farmers.

Doesn't look very efficient.
Abolish the entire enterprise.

[blackpowder]

One benefit to eliminating all interventions would be reducing troublesome rural votes.
Maybe that's Chuck's plan.
Wouldn't apply to railroads tho.
Although our milk would be cheaper.
"What don't you want?"

[blackpowder]

How much crop insurance do you buy Chuck?

None?

He's not gonna answer that.
He's just like every other bto blabbing about his new Denali.
Difference is his Napoleon syndrome uses virtue signalling.