Careful what you wish for: commodity groups ditch Sustainable Agriculture Strategy

[Hamloc]

Hamloc I am glad to see you finally admitted the government is subsidizing you with lower cost premiums for a well used and supported Crop Insurance program.

The safety net includes Agristability and AgrInvest which is not a premium based program and which kick in when you really need it.

Most farmers and their organizations support the safety net programs. Only the fringe thinkers like don't admit they are subsidized and needed programs.

You truly are a f###ing idiot Chuck, as I pointed out I never said it wasn’t subsidized. You started this thread by insinuating government funding of crop insurance wasn’t sustainable. Looking at what share was spent in Alberta it would appear a greater amount must have been spent in Saskatchewan as the total spent on crop insurance was over $3 billion according to your article. I point out again, a point you refuse to acknowledge, crop insurance up to this point has been a net cost to me regardless of the subsidized premiums.

[blackpowder]

He started the thread tying carbon reduction policies to greater costs to insurance due to greater weather extremes.
Be a good farmer, do everything he/government says and the weather will be more stable, less costs to insurance.
Failing that point, he was still rewarded with an argument.
Concentrate on positive energy and leave this sewage alone.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You truly are a f###ing idiot Chuck, as I pointed out I never said it wasn’t subsidized..

He also can't recognize question marks, as evidenced by his response to my above post.

I think we should try communicating in smiley faces. That seems to be the only language he understands.

[shtferbrains]

That didn't go well?

[chuckChuck]

I see that the boneheaded speculation from A5 that Crop Insurance is wasting large amounts of money on administration didn't get past scrutiny!

85% of the crop acres in Saskatchewan are covered by Crop Insurance and probably similar amount in Alberta. So thinkers like A5 are on the fringe in saying axe the whole program!

Climate change denying farmers seem to see no connection between rising crop insurance payouts and more extreme weather events?

No surprise there!

Hamloc your math ignores the 60% of premium subsidy you received from taxpayers every year.

Total that premium subsidy up and get back to us with the total you received and include it in the benefit payout side of the equation.

I am not disputing your claim you may have paid more in your 40% share of premiums than you have received in payouts.

[cropgrower]

its people like you cc that want to be kids all their life and never grow up that love all the government supports , thats what has got us into the mess we are in

[chuckChuck]

Do you receive any ag subsidies Crop? Or any CEBA during Covid?

Do you drive on public roads and send your kids to public school or use public health care?

If you received any subsidies or do any of the above then you are just an ill informed hypocrite!

[chuckChuck]

Why did you quickly scurry away Crop?

We already know the answer. You are a hypocrite!

[cropgrower]

never took a penny during scamdemic , have paid far more into crop insurance than i ever have got back ,and very likely will get out of it , just keep hail, so please tell me what subsidies i get on my farm cc

[blackpowder]

Why are you playing chase your tail with a bully?

[chuckChuck]

never took a penny during scamdemic , have paid far more into crop insurance than i ever have got back ,and very likely will get out of it , just keep hail, so please tell me what subsidies i get on my farm cc

But Crop you forgot about the 60% of the Crop Isurance premiums which are a subsidy paid for by taxpayers? And you don't get the Arginvest matching deposit?

And you don't drive on public roads, use public healthcare or send your kids to public schools?

You never leave your basement in other words?

[Hamloc]

But Crop you forgot about the 60% of the Crop Isurance premiums which are a subsidy paid for by taxpayers? And you don't get the Arginvest matching deposit?

And you don't drive on public roads, use public healthcare or send your kids to public schools?

You never leave your basement in other words?

Healthcare isn’t free, it is payed for through our taxes.

[cropgrower]

Don't be the pathetic NDP mouse cc that needs the government too look after you

[shtferbrains]

So in a Poilievre government dominated by urban and suburban MPs and a leader who has little affinity for agriculture will Ag spending be part of the coming cuts?

The financial numbers, however, illustrate why governments are stepping up to lead the sustainability discussion. Production volatility is becoming more expensive for taxpayers as well as farmers.

Federal government payments devoted to stabilizing the sector — which totalled $6.5 billion in 2023 — have more than doubled in the past five years and tripled over the past decade. An increasing proportion of that spending is going to crop insurance payments to compensate farmers for weather-related production shortfalls caused by drought, excess moisture or killing frost.

Between 2019 and 2023, crop insurance payouts have averaged 56 per cent of total direct federal payments. In the five years previous, that average was 44 per cent. In the five years before that, they averaged 34 per cent. At this pace, it won’t be long before propping up the status quo consumes the entire agriculture budget. That’s unsustainable.?

Back to the OP claiming production volatility is becoming more expensive.

More expensive because we are producing 575% more dollars worth of product since 1995.
The volatility continues to decline.
They are insuring higher yields at higher values.
The 1995 yields would be below insured values today.
Any climate change in Saskatchewan been good for farmers.

You need try get information somewhere other than political activists working at left leaning media.

[chuckChuck]

More heat, droughts and floods are good for farmers? LOL