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    #13
    This article sums up what AB5 and myself have maintained all along, that incorporating wind and solar into the electrical grid increases the cost of electricity, it does not make it more affordable. It would be nice if Chuck2 would read the article, but he won’t. He will just spew more pie in the sky Liberal talking points!

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      #14
      anybody that is not wacko knows that it costs more to set up and run two systems compared to one

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        #15
        [QUOTE=chuckChuck;n809131

        Looks like 2025 is shaping up to be just as silly as 2024 was on Agrisilly! [/QUOTE]

        So get lost!

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          #16
          So Crop says you can't have more than one generating source and renewables too?

          Alberta, Saskatchewan, North Dakota and Texas prove that particular flat earth thinking is wrong.

          Renewables don't have run all the time to add low cost and low carbon generation capacity.



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            #17
            It seems the goal posts keep moving.

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              #18
              Especially when it comes to paying up to five times more than planned for an SMR!

              Even at 2 times they are dead in the water!

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                #19
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                So Crop says you can't have more than one generating source and renewables too?

                Alberta, Saskatchewan, North Dakota and Texas prove that particular flat earth thinking is wrong.

                Renewables don't have run all the time to add low cost and low carbon generation capacity.


                Did you read the article I posted on how incorporating wind and solar into the grid increases the cost of electricity to consumers Chuck2? You have yet to meet AF5’s challenge of showing us a jurisdiction where adding wind and solar lowered consumer’s electricity costs!

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                  #20
                  Its an opinion and nobody can read it Hamloc unless you post the link.

                  Economists in Alberta and Texas have said that renewables are lower generation cost options that help keep the wholesale price of electricity lower.

                  In Alberta with holding supply drove up prices to consumers. It wasn't wind and solar.

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                    #21
                    From the International Energy Agency:

                    Rapid rollout of clean technologies makes energy cheaper, not more costly

                    In many cases, clean energy technologies are already more cost competitive over their lifespans than those reliant on conventional fuels like coal, natural gas and oil. Solar PV and wind are the cheapest options for new generation.

                    ​[url]https://www.iea.org/news/rapid-rollout-of-clean-technologies-makes-energy-cheaper-not-more-costly[/url]

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Its an opinion and nobody can read it Hamloc unless you post the link.

                      Economists in Alberta and Texas have said that renewables are lower generation cost options that help keep the wholesale price of electricity lower.

                      In Alberta with holding supply drove up prices to consumers. It wasn't wind and solar.
                      fraserinstitute.org/commentary/solar-and-wind-make-electricity-more-expensive.

                      Simple reality Chuck2, wind and solar are not stand alone dispatchable power sources, they require back up. Therefore 24 hr a day electricity production involving wind and solar require far more infrastructure which is reflected in the increased generation cost passed on to the consumer.

                      Past history has shown that your understanding of the written word is very poor which is why I post pictures lol!
                      Last edited by Hamloc; Jan 3, 2025, 09:40.

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                        #23
                        The Fraser institute opinion piece is biased. Its not an objective economic analysis.

                        Why then are BC, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Quebec and Ontario along with North Dakota and Texas adding more renewables?

                        Free market Texas Hamloc? Why?
                        Last edited by chuckChuck; Jan 5, 2025, 09:21.

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                          #24
                          Funny story. Husky ethanol plant in lloydminster is being idled for the foreseeable future because, get a load of this, the carbon tax. A car of ethanol is $7000 cheaper to rail in from Chicago than it is to produce at the ethanol plant which uses extra heat and cogen from the upgrader. Our area has lost a market. See Chuck that is reality of government policy wrecking even green initiatives and allowing foreign competitors to come in.

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