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    #11
    When winds are blowing 50mph gusting to 100mph Mother nature is a bitch.
    If they had those kinds of winds at a fire here everyone would be back in camp for obvious safety. If you were on the side of a mountain it would blow you away.

    They have lots of fires and have lots of equipment.
    Fires happen often because it seldom rains and everyone loves their trees .
    They don't cut right of ways for power lines. The primary cause of fires.

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      #12
      One reporter said that palm trees are like 60 foot torches. The wind blowing through unpruned palms spread burning embers everywhere. That being said, this is not the first fire in that neighborhood. They know exactly where they live, in the middle of fire heaven.

      Due diligence would be building with clay tile roofs, stucco walls, no propane tanks around, maybe under swimming pools sisterns with ready to go pumps.

      When we go to harvest lentils in hot, dry conditions, we go prepared with water truck, good pump and long fire hose. A tractor with disc is close by just in case a spark sets the field ablaze.

      This also being said, the reservoirs were empty because governor was watering the smelt and hydrants were not functioning. All the excuses the green lefties want to make add up to this catastrophie.

      If you can’t protect your home from threats like fire, don’t build there or build a moat. these homes are worth 10, 20, 50 million dollars. A few million spent on fire protection wouldn’t kill them.
      Last edited by sumdumguy; Jan 15, 2025, 11:02.

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        #13
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

        Not only did they create the problem. They also have the only cure. And climate change is responsible for every problem known to mankind, and destroying capitalism is the only solution to every imaginable ( and imaginary) problem.
        Fires prove carbon caused climate change. With logic like that who needs enemies?
        They were quick to say serves us right when Ft Mac burnt.
        This is Jasper on a grand scale.
        I'm lightly involved in property in So Cal. Chuck heaven.

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          #14
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

          Not only did they create the problem. They also have the only cure. And climate change is responsible for every problem known to mankind, and destroying capitalism is the only solution to every imaginable ( and imaginary) problem.
          The Great Reset demands climate change to redistribute wealth from the middle class , while the elites keep their wealth and status.
          climate change is the avenue for the globalists

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            #15
            Originally posted by blackpowder View Post

            Fires prove carbon caused climate change. With logic like that who needs enemies?
            This is Jasper on a grand scale.
            One similarity to Jasper is they both had DEI hires in charge initially.
            You can't stop a fire when it is up in the treetops blowing 50MPH.
            But were they ready in position to put out the inevitable small fire that got it going?

            Sometimes these situations remind me of failed generational transfers on farms.
            Too many other priorities and neglecting the basics that are needed to ensure success.
            Things go down hill quickly when you get distracted and take your eye off the ball.
            Lose sight of basic priorities with the wrong people in charge.

            In this case there were obvious failures in infrastructure and short and long term prevention preparations.
            The money was all spent on other "priorities"?

            Last edited by shtferbrains; Jan 15, 2025, 12:27.

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              #16
              Eucalyptus release oil when burning actually enhances fires once certain temp is reached. Fires needed to crack open gum nuts to release seeds.

              Presume pine similar?

              National parks here get razed by fires green shoots from bottom of tree stumps within a month and new seedling. Amazing plant survives long hot springs summer and autumn’s

              Edit low level fires do forests amazing amount of good back in 60/70s used to be controlled burns in most national parks every 3rd or 4th year if didn’t happen naturally through lightning not any more
              Last edited by Landdownunder; Jan 15, 2025, 22:23.

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                #17
                If climate change is a thing it actually reduces winds on broader scale due to more high/dry stable weather and less lows/unstable windy weather. Rule 101 of climate change I’m a sceptic so take it with grain of salt.
                And if you put your meteorologist hat on not rocket science to figure out.
                Santa Anna winds interesting phenomena. We got one locally a southerly wind that comes up about 40 km wide and 80 kms long the dies out gives me slightly cooler nights

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                  #18
                  Eucalyptus are quite common along the central coast in California.
                  It was introduced and thrived like a native.
                  There are small forests that are not planted.
                  As you say not a great tree where fire is a common occurrence due to the natural oil content.

                  Pines will go up in flames like a torch due to the oil in the needles.
                  Sometimes the fire blows through so fast the main tree is still suitable for lumber.

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                    #19
                    Three or four major dams in that area were supposedly taken out to save a fish species or two, not sure how many. Lets see now , extra water supply means more water for the city infrastructure , IE fire hydrants! Maybe Newsoms agenda is like our PM , just ignore it and hopefully it goes away soon ?

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