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    #25
    Trumps tarrifs are far worse with massive job losses coming across the country and loss of market share with a 2-4% fall in GDP. The carbon tax barely registers in comparison.

    Trevor Tombe at the U of C and the auditor General pegged the carbon tax cost to GDP of well below 1 %



    Last edited by chuckChuck; Feb 10, 2025, 15:11.

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      #26
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Trumps tarrifs are far worse with massive job losses coming across the country and loss of market share with a 2-4% fall in GDP. The carbon tax barely registers in comparison.



      Oh about that carbon tax which you say has no impact on inflation.

      The minimal gst holiday of 2 months supposedly dropped inflation by .3 or .4 % yet $80 per tonne carbon tax has no effect.

      ​​​​​​​Yup.

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        #27
        Trumps tariffs would be non existent if sell out Singh did not stand in the way of an early election. The conservatives would be on much more common ground and be already working with the U.S. to secure borders and stiff action taken on fentanyl .
        not empty Trudeau promises

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          #28
          Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
          So Newguy being such a political nomad as you claim and that you live in Saskatchewan who best represents your interests federally? Not being a dickhead but just am wondering. Your outright hatred of anything conservative is getting to same degree as a paid troll here. So by conjecture you are fine with a Carney government which might take off the consumer carbon tax but play a game of smoke and mirrors and put import tariffs on goods from countries which don’t follow climate targets the Canadian government deems necessary, while at the same time still carbon taxing domestic industry? You complain of the Moe government being closeted liberals taxing your ass too much. Be consistent like Chuck.
          Seems conservatives take Sask farmers for a sure vote and do not do a whole lot for them anyway.Harper told Wall to back down on equalization that he needed the Quebec vote and wall gave it up.The same thing will Happen with Moe and Poilierve.Nothng will change and Moe will say all is good now.

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            #29
            Originally posted by newguy View Post

            Seems conservatives take Sask farmers for a sure vote and do not do a whole lot for them anyway.Harper told Wall to back down on equalization that he needed the Quebec vote and wall gave it up.The same thing will Happen with Moe and Poilierve.Nothng will change and Moe will say all is good now.
            I agree. Polivere still on board with propping up this failed experiment of a country. Sask party is liberal lite but the alternative gives me the chills thinking of decades of largesse under their stupidity. But yes we as farmers, oil people, blue collar, small businesses etc are taken for granted that we vote to keep the commie tommies away.

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              #30
              Failed experiment? Huh? Just because your preferred party is not in power? LOL

              Or are you doing very poorly to have such a dismal opinion of the country there Wilton?

              Trump has united the country against Trump. But the hyper partisans can't change their tune!

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                #31
                Typical Chuck with your head up your ass. Every province at odds with one another. Can’t even agree on dropping interprovincial trade barriers that it makes it easy by default to trade with the USA, and difficult to get goods to tidewater unless you pay off the natives, placate provincial needs which all equates to bribing people to keep this notion of a country barely functioning. Good lord even the old ccf’s would be just as pissed off as anyone else today. Your bullshit ilk have perpetrated this disunity with every bs cause. Far as Trump uniting Canadians will hopefully pivot to the realization our country is a weak mess because of this and kick the powers that be to the curb.

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                  #32
                  Chuck, you started this thread to say who was best at dealing with Trump's demands?

                  Who is working on all the promised reforms like the 10,000 people and the Border czar?
                  Trudeau seems to be fully occupied with his BFF Emmanuel Macron and the clock is ticking with no sign of any action.
                  Are they just going to plead incompetency as their reputation would support?
                  Or did Trudeau not realize what he was agreeing to with the joint task force?
                  Give us you best cut and paste opinion on whether the Liberals are going to make anything happen or just go with the tough guys against the Trade War?
                  Wait for a few more polls?
                  Last edited by shtferbrains; Feb 10, 2025, 23:00.

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                    #33
                    Any bets on how long it would take for the East to change their tune if magically, Trump disappeared?
                    Media reminding us daily of the benevolence of Ottawa for bailing out Trans Mountain. No mention the running off of the original builders.
                    They still don't really want a line to burn Canadian oil. Because they don't realize where their gasoline comes from.
                    It's not just Chuck with his guts for blinders and crap for earplugs. It's most of Eastern Canada. Always has been. Take an imbecile to argue that.
                    Quebec like the gay uncle and the bastard child of yesteryear all in one. Don't ask, don't tell. Highest social programs, highest transfer payments, biggest intraprovincial trade opponents.
                    "Upstart Alberta" has just been a propaganda tool to keep the Eastern populace at the Laurentian trough.

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                      #34
                      Shtfrbrns.
                      POsted before I read yours.
                      Anybody who believes any Canadian govt can get anything real done in any reasonable time is from Mars.
                      If this was 1939 I'd be emigrating.
                      Bets on how much laundering will be affected? LO frigging L. Never been a better time to sell a bridge.
                      Sadly that's just what Ottawa continues to do. Sell people a bridge, daily.

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                        #35
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        Failed experiment? Huh? Just because your preferred party is not in power? LOL

                        Or are you doing very poorly to have such a dismal opinion of the country there Wilton?

                        Trump has united the country against Trump. But the hyper partisans can't change their tune!
                        The experiment is far from failed.
                        I think it will successfully prove how not to do it.

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                          #36
                          Carney needs to go back to the UK .
                          He identifies as a European, not Canadian, even went out of his way to declare that point

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