Trump going full Putin!

[TSIPP]

Seriously? Trump and Vance could’ve done it in private like what most decent humans would.

Now I’m wondering if I saw the entire video, I’ll look for an entire video, can’t say I’m much of a Zelenskyy fan.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I watched the entire video.
If I were Zelensky, I would have lost my temper too. My one chance to negotiate and state my case to the President and his team in person.
And Trump wasted most of the time bragging about unrelated topics. Really turned it into a public circus, and made it about himself. Just a waste of Zelensky's time.
Doing it in public when English is clearly not Zelensky's first language really puts him at a disadvantage, I doubt he was expecting the media etc.

I see on Twitter everyone attacking Zelensky over his behaviour. I actually feel pity for him. What a terrible place to be in. He's no doubt being held hostage to the demands of multiple bad actors; the Ukrainian oligarchs, mafia and far right militias. Beholden to Nato, and the western puppet masters and corporate interests who put him there in the first place. Risked everything based on promises of western governments, most of those governments have now changed. Facing the wrath of the population who has been forced to sacrifice their sons for a futile effort, having that on ones conscience would break most people.
I doubt he had any idea what he was signing up for when he was first chosen.

[TSIPP]

Watched the 50 minute video on C-SPAN, the problem is every time Zelenskyy got a chance he called Putin a murdering terrorist, Trump needs to work both sides if any kind of peace will prevail. I’ll bet Putin watched the video also.

[blackpowder]

A senile Al Capone. But.
I wonder if Europe will start writing more checks?
They should have lots of money from their new green economy. Just ask Carney.
Maybe they should ask the Chinese who are already there.

[agstar77]

Just an opinion. Z did not kiss the ring.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

What Ukraine is made of, which was/is the correct border?

All my ancestors came from the 1939 area.

Asking what is the correct border of such a contested region is as likely to have one correct answer as every time I ask Chuck what is the correct level of CO2 or the correct world temperature or the correct Arctic ice extent or the correct extent of the Columbia ice field.

Poland, slovakia, Romania, Turkey etc will all have a different answer about what the correct borders are

[sumdumguy]

How can anyone guarantee the Ukrainians peace? You can pour all the money in the world on “Z”‘s head and you will just have more weapons, more fighting. He hasn’t grasped the fact that a bigger army will not give you peace. Trump is calling for cease-fire, NOW.

European nations have had their borders restructured from time immortal, much like the Middle East. I am a Ukrainian but I can see that there needs to be an election like we need one. It’s a no-win for US, Canada or anyone. $350 billion dollars has not accomplished a thing. No matter what we do, we’ll just be blamed for Ukraine’s dilemma, no matter what. IMHO

[WiltonRanch]

How can anyone guarantee the Ukrainians peace? You can pour all the money in the world on “Z”‘s head and you will just have more weapons, more fighting. He hasn’t grasped the fact that a bigger army will not give you peace. Trump is calling for cease-fire, NOW.

European nations have had their borders restructured from time immortal, much like the Middle East. I am a Ukrainian but I can see that there needs to be an election like we need one. It’s a no-win for US, Canada or anyone. $350 billion dollars has not accomplished a thing. No matter what we do, we’ll just be blamed for Ukraine’s dilemma, no matter what. IMHO

Times so reminiscent of 1938. Getting Neville Chamberlain vibes. From your assertion prolonged imperial German aggression to its neighbours from arguably back to the times Charlemagne to 1938 warranted the USA and Uk to allow Hitler into the Sudetenland unchecked in hopes another world war would be averted. How’d that go? How many times did borders shift between the times of the Franks and ww2?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The media and politicians have been trying to convince us that this is world war II all over again, except the good guys and the bad guys have switched.
Literally reusing all of the same tired propaganda.

I don't see anything constructive or relevant about those comparisons.

The blatant propaganda might have worked 80 years ago. In the communications era, not so much.

[blackpowder]

US foreign policy sure taking a shift.
Right or wrong.
There are general similarities to the interwar period, but quoting Chamberlain quite premature.
Will take decades to see.
Zelensky set himself up for that thrashing.
Not defending Trump at all.
Honestly I'm fine with Europe investing more in their own future.
High time.
Should have lots of income from their new style green economy.
Start writing checks. Ask GFANZ for some cash.