Intergenerational Trauma

[blueversi]

Chuck thinks everything is the governments job, it’s no surprise he advocates for no personal responsibility for certain people.

[GALAXIE500]

Ohh cry us a river poor some dumb guy! Cue the violins!

Alberta and Saskatchewan are relatively wealthy provinces with higher per capita GDP!

And Trader Joe is a real bigot and racist for calling all first nations lazy after they were colonized, lost their land and resources and were forced on to uneconomic reserves and had to put up with decades of the kind of racism shown by Trader Joe!

We share in the responsibility for their situation Trader Joe.

BC Conservative leader John Rustad had to throw out the bigots and racist from his party who were spouting residential school denialism. Good riddance!

Its funny how people have an opinion about all of this stuff , but just maybe if they lived beside one of these reserves , they would have their eyes opened?

I went to college with a number of native guys from three of the local reserves in the Lethbridge area in 1988-90 . Their opinion was that they had to basically cut off/alienate most of their family if they ever wanted to go anywhere in life with a career outside of the rez. Reason: most of the relatives were jealous/ resentful of what they had or were going to have.

White people are the same way in some families also.

"What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine".

Sorry Chuck , but once again the sunny ways style of thinking conflicts with fact and bold faced reality.

[Jordy2323]

We know who the true racists are.

[sumdumguy]

I am absolutely lucky to have an indigenous high school student from the city as my right-hand man whenever I need a helping hand. He graduates this year from a city high school with an 80+ average. He wants togoto university to be a lawyer and I helped him to apply. Of course he got his acceptance the same day, but we were shocked to find out he may not be able to get funding for university from Department of Education. He deserves every bit of it. Apparently its not a given, hmm, guess I was wrong again.

[goalieguy847]

I dont understand how questioning 0 bodies dug up but billions of dollars thrown at the problem.. is being racist?
if the kids in question were white... would it be racist ?
isnt it racist to NOT start a dig?

Very confused whats bigotry and whats not.

Nobody here has said or debated the horrors of residential schools.

Its like today chuck decided to wake up and just start yelling at everyone and every cloud. Bigot this. Bigot that.

I dont see you giving any of your land back, chuck?

Im tired of all the pre oiler game indigenous recognitions of being on the native ancestral lands of so and so. Well give it back then! Just give it back to them! And again... which i cant believe i have to type.. this isnt a racist or bigoted view!
just give them the land back!

" we would like to acknowledge that this building sits on stolen cree land... etc..etc."

Mmm kay.... so...
give it back!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I dont understand how questioning 0 bodies dug up but billions of dollars thrown at the problem.. is being racist?
if the kids in question were white... would it be racist ?
isnt it racist to NOT start a dig?

Very confused whats bigotry and whats not.

Nobody here has said or debated the horrors of residential schools.

Its like today chuck decided to wake up and just start yelling at everyone and every cloud. Bigot this. Bigot that.

I dont see you giving any of your land back, chuck?

Im tired of all the pre oiler game indigenous recognitions of being on the native ancestral lands of so and so. Well give it back then! Just give it back to them! And again... which i cant believe i have to type.. this isnt a racist or bigoted view!
just give them the land back!

" we would like to acknowledge that this building sits on stolen cree land... etc..etc."

Mmm kay.... so...
give it back!

I light when I said I don't watch or read the news.
I do occasionally check in on the fake news you can trust over at The Babylon bee.
This headline caught my eye recently.

???????U.K. Imam Opens Service With Land Acknowledgment Of Indigenous Britons That Once Inhabited London

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And this one:

Land Acknowledgment: The Babylon Bee Wishes To Acknowledge That Our Offices Are Located On Land Once Occupied By Morton & Mayfield Accounting LLC

[Blaithin]

My family is drowning in generational trauma. There’s absolutely no coping skills in most and it’s riddled with addictions.

I always wonder how far back does generational trauma go. One generation? Two? Five? I read an article about descendants of the Irish Famine and their generational trauma which would impact a lot of
people.

Its definitely not only something BIPOCs deal with.

Hell, farmers are some of the most dysfunctional people I know largely due to generational trauma.

Everyone is ****ed up. Either work to fix it, deny it completely, or overdose. Those seem to be the main three approaches.

[blackpowder]

1. Intergenerational trauma is not Indigenous exclusive.
White families I'm familiar with take 3-4 generations to no longer be affected by the first gens abuse. Sins of the father so to speak. In the bible somewhere.
2. It does seem self perpetuating for Indigenous.
Res schools are still fairly recent. Unequal treatment for over a century to be sure.
But there seems to be more to it.
3. Shared responsibility is correct. If it is shared. The world is harsh. Do we blame others when we ourselves abuse our own children.

Deeding them their land and ending perpetual reliance doesn't seem to be accepted. Why.

The acknowledgement towards whose land we're on is understandable. Reconciliation begins with acknowledgement and education I suppose.
But it's too easy, too pervasive, divisional and quickly loses meaning like all platitudes.
My forefathers built what we enjoy with their bare hands and it's rubbed in the dirt with identity politics.
Most of us are sensible and fair minded.
Reverting to the bigot label an easy out for someone without answers of their own.

[chuckChuck]

Conservatives across the country have kicked out many of the residential school denialists MPs, Senators and MLas because they are wrong and an embarrassment.

In the most recent case John Rustad had to give Dallas Brodie the boot because she went as far as mocking the testimony of sexual abuse survivors! What a piece of shyte she is! Does anybody on this site think that mocking the victims of sexual abuse is okay?

Prime Minister Harper apologized for the residential school system and policies.

The Truth and Reconciliation Commission well documented the abuse and harm that was done to many residential school survivors. Many of whom are still alive today.

But for some reason there are still people who question the negative impact of residential schools and even some say they were good!

And many claim that no one died in residential after we know that not to be true from school records.

So maybe the problem is with the residential school denialists?

Did you ever think of that? Apparently not!

"Rustad said the decision to remove Brodie was not based on earlier statements surrounding the number of bodies found at the Kamloops Indian Residential School site but instead about "an elected MLA using her position of authority to mock testimony of survivors of abuse, including child sex abuse."

"As a result of her decision to publicly mock and belittle testimony from former residential school students, including by mimicking individuals recounting stories of abuses — including child sex abuse, MLA Brodie is not welcome to return to our Conservative Party of B.C. Caucus.""