True Story

[Landdownunder]

Rarely venture to this side of Agriville but can’t post it in commodity section.
First not anti vaxxer.
But this week Brother in Law went to hospital with chest pains, inconclusive but zero signs of heart issues. “Possibly” Covid related.
His partner who’s exhusband got him into top cardiologist/surgeon same day private hospital.
Some detailed scans again no heart issues but definitely vaccine injury around or in heart muscle.
Nothing can be done except will heal in time and do NOT have any more vaccination for Covid.
Last comment surgeon said he wouldn’t have been allowed to make such diagnosis even 19months ago.
Time goes on things get discovered so no more vaccine for me going foward.
Just putting it out there.

[blackpowder]

Thank you.

[fjlip]

The truth is HARD to keep silent...

[Landdownunder]

im really not into all the dark side but just repeating what a close family member said.
1%er maybe

I had 8 vials of blood taken from me Friday and the "vampire lady" ha ha said vax injury quite common in time will show in blood tests when they perfect it and the kicker "if its allowed"

real interesting times

[chuckChuck]

I am glad to hear you are not an antivaxer Downunder!

From AI: COVID-19, even in mild cases, can increase the risk of heart problems and damage, potentially leading to heart failure or heart attack

Anecdotal information based on one story is not confirmation of anything, except that the anti science antivaxers will be delighted by any tidbit of information that supports their bias. But then they will completely dismiss any large scale clinical trials and evidence?

So how did the doctor in question know that the damage was caused by the vaccine and not covid or some other cause? Covid can also be a cause of damage to the heart muscle!

Don't run away Downunder ask the brother in law to ask the doctor and then lets look at the science based evidence on more than one case.

Of course we know that there are side effects from all types of medical intervention including vaccines. But the evidence has shown that the small risk from vaccines is very small in comparison to the benefits.

Are you vaccinated for measles? Unvaccinated children are at great risk of severe complications from a disease that was largely eliminated with vaccines in many countries.


COVID-19 Infection and Myocarditis:

Studies show that individuals infected with COVID-19 before vaccination are significantly more at risk of developing myocarditis than those infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.

• Vaccine-Associated Myocarditis:
  While rare, myocarditis can occur after COVID-19 vaccination, particularly after the first dose of AstraZeneca, and after first, second, and booster doses of Pfizer or Moderna.

From Yale University:

Q&A: What Causes Rare Instances of Myocarditis After mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines?

[url]https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/qanda-what-causes-rare-instances-of-myocarditis-after-mrna-covid-19-vaccines/[/url]

[blackpowder]

That was inevitable.
He said he was not an anti vaxxer.
He respectfully told his story.
Knowing he would open up the door.
His proof is his own and he's not shoving it on us. We're smart enough to know it's anecdotal. And to know it's not FB garbage.
You had a choice. You couldn't deny your nature. Your message has always had merit but loses all weight when used as a club.
You've learned nothing and perpetuate the divide. You're really no better than RFK.
My family is current on all vaccines.
Except the seasonals and that one.
Nobody taking that one anymore.

[chuckChuck]

BP I never said Downunder was an antivaxer did I?

BP you have also have a choice. You can either follow credible science and evidence or let the antivaxers go unchallenged.

But I am glad to know that you support vaccines and are also not an antivaxer.

[blackpowder]

Fair enough. There's vaccines for illnesses that have serious outcomes at high rates if infected.
And there's the one that didn't.
Strange reactions seem to be higher than 1 in 100000, at least for my acquaintances. Higher it seems than deaths from the disease.
I don't need a scientist to explain frostbite to me.
We've all heard your message. You're not changing anything. Especially with that attitude.
Only a very few are true anti vax. And you're not going to change their mind that way either.

[cropgrower]

waste of time talking to brainwashed chucks at this stage

[shtferbrains]

I would like to see the data on how many people doctors are prescribing blood thiner to.
Seems a a lot of the people I know are now on some type.
Might be an age thing but also hear many younger people who it effects there jobs that I never heard of before.
Example RCMP can't be on active duty, office only.
Some tradesman with risk of cutting themselves like electricians have to choose between risks

Lots of problems with clots?