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    #21
    And what is your point, forage?

    Or you don't understand sarcasm without the mandatory smiley faces that Chuck always uses?

    What I was saying, is that as nasty as this exchange may have looked, I expect it is a lot worse than that behind closed doors when the superpower financier is giving instructions to their subordinate.
    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Mar 18, 2025, 14:27.

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      #22
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      That has been my assumption all along.
      The usual interactions behind closed doors likely aren't nearly as polite and diplomatic as that meeting..
      Ab5, you didn't find it polite and diplomantic a couple of weeks ago according to this post of your's a couple of weeks ago.

      I watched the entire video.
      If I were Zelensky, I would have lost my temper too. My one chance to negotiate and state my case to the President and his team in person.
      And Trump wasted most of the time bragging about unrelated topics. Really turned it into a public circus, and made it about himself. Just a waste of Zelensky's time.
      Doing it in public when English is clearly not Zelensky's first language really puts him at a disadvantage, I doubt he was expecting the media etc.​


      So many contradiction coming from you on Agriville. .

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        #23
        Now I understand why Chuck communicates almost entirely with emojis.

        HIs target audience cannot pick up sarcasm no matter how obvious it is.

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          #24
          Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post

          Ab5, you didn't find it polite and diplomantic a couple of weeks ago according to this post of your's a couple of weeks ago.

          I watched the entire video.
          If I were Zelensky, I would have lost my temper too. My one chance to negotiate and state my case to the President and his team in person.
          And Trump wasted most of the time bragging about unrelated topics. Really turned it into a public circus, and made it about himself. Just a waste of Zelensky's time.
          Doing it in public when English is clearly not Zelensky's first language really puts him at a disadvantage, I doubt he was expecting the media etc.​


          So many contradiction coming from you on Agriville. .
          Lefties are a different breed, sucks to be you!

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            #25
            Seen last night Carney Mania spreading south. Trump said liberals are easier to deal with unlike the conservative guy who’s said mean things about him. Trump endorses Carney.

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              #26
              So Poilievre and his advisors are still stuck on last years campaign?

              If their dramatic collapse in the polls is any indication, PP's job is on the line! He is soft on criticizing Trump! Why because he has too many Trump supporters in his party! A millstone around his neck!

              You gotta wonder how clueless you have to be to run a campaign so out of touch with the main issues that you lose a 25% lead and fall to second place?

              It will go down as one of the most remarkable reversals of political fortunes Canada has ever seen!
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 19, 2025, 07:46.

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                #27
                Trump just endorsed Carney and the liberals.
                Kinda a twist in fate of the story line of "Vote for PP is a vote for Trump" ....
                //youtu.be/bNg6IyW68_s

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                  #28
                  Pierre Poilievre’s strength is as an attack dog. But he’s growling against the wrong target
                  Robyn Urback
                  Globe and Mail
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                  A moment of silence, please, for the devastating loss that the Conservative Party of Canada still hasn’t fully recognized – or come to terms with.

                  The Tories surely thought they had the coming election in the bag: it would be a carbon-tax election against a deeply unpopular prime minister, after which Pierre Poilievre would form government with a commanding majority. But then Justin Trudeau had to go and resign, and U.S. President Donald Trump had to go play pinball with the Canadian economy, and now Mr. Poilievre’s 25-point lead has become a neck-and-neck race against Liberal Prime Minister Mark Carney.

                  Clinging to the corpse of the election he never got to have, Mr. Poilievre announced Monday that the Conservatives will scrap the carbon tax on industry, which is an attempt to draw a line between himself and Mr. Carney, who has reduced the carbon-tax rate to zero for consumers only. Mr. Poilievre stood before a lectern with a sign that read “Axe the Tax,” which one could interpret either as a sign of the Conservatives’ enduring denial, or else, as an example of their non-carbon-tax green initiatives, which evidently includes recycling old campaign signs.

                  For months now, Mr. Poilievre has been trying to fit his old approach into Canada’s new political climate, sort of like a toddler who thinks that if he keeps jamming the triangle shape into the circle hole, it will eventually break through. But no matter how many times Mr. Poilievre says it, Mr. Carney does not come off as “Just Like Justin”; the carbon tax has effectively already been axed, and the year is 2025 – not 2024. The campaign the Conservatives thought they would wage is now dead. It’s time for the Conservatives to get a grip, and get over it.

                  To the extent that Mr. Poilievre has managed to pivot, he has simply replaced the name “Justin Trudeau” with “Mark Carney.” Mark Carney will make your life more expensive. Mark Carney is hiding his assets. Mark Carney is out of touch. Mark Carney is sneaky . Mark Carney will make us weaker against U.S. threats.

                  There is logic in trying to brand your opponent before the public really gets to know him (and there is even more logic to sticking to one clear narrative – not five different ones – in trying to establish that brand). But this will be a different type of election – one that is more about an external foe than a battle between domestic leaders.

                  Mr. Poilievre is fundamentally misreading the climate in Canada. Despite his efforts, Canadians don’t see Mr. Carney as the enemy; that’s how they view Mr. Trump. And while Mr. Carney is travelling abroad, trying to strengthen our relationships with foreign allies and fortify our response to U.S. tariffs, Mr. Poilievre is at home complaining about “Carbon Tax Carney” and his supposed plan to continue Mr. Trudeau’s policy agenda. It makes the Conservative Leader look sophomoric and out-of-touch, while Mr. Carney comes off as above-the-fray – a real leader.

                  Mr. Poilievre could shift his tone to start acting more “prime ministerial,” which would mean talking more policy than smack, and also dropping the tired, 2024-era slogans. That might help to regain him some momentum. But the reality is that Mr. Poilievre isn’t “prime ministerial” by nature. His strength is as an attack dog: someone who will go for the jugular and not back down, often channeling the angst and frustrations of the electorate. That’s what defined him as a cabinet member in Stephen Harper’s government, and what fuelled his popularity as Opposition Leader. Canadians were angry about tone-deaf Liberal moralizing at a time when many were struggling to afford groceries, and Mr. Poilievre expertly echoed that. Now they’re angry about Mr. Trump levying punishing tariffs and threatening to make Canada the 51st state – but Mr. Poilievre, noticeably, is not echoing that. He’s directing almost all of his ire at Mr. Carney.

                  During his announcement on Monday, where he was flanked by industrial workers, Mr. Poilievre did offer a few words directly to Mr. Trump. “Why would you go after these people?” he said, pointing to the people behind him. “There is no good reason to do this to these good people. Stop the tariffs, stop the chaos, let’s solve this problem.” The attack dog here suddenly became a poodle, batting a curly-haired paw at the President.

                  Mr. Poilievre knows how to go hard at an opponent, and he has proven he can tap into the social climate to mirror the energy of the electorate. But he has chosen the wrong target. Canadians are mad at Mr. Trump, not Mr. Carney. Mr. Poilievre, meanwhile, is still mourning the election that never was.
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                  Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 19, 2025, 07:48.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                    Trump just endorsed Carney and the liberals.
                    Kinda a twist in fate of the story line of "Vote for PP is a vote for Trump" ....
                    //youtu.be/bNg6IyW68_s
                    He also more or less said PP is stupid!

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                      #30
                      looks like carney is the best option for us becoming 51st state

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