Solar and Wind are expensive

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Explanation for Texas and North Dakota is that MAGA will fall for any bird brain scheme that comes with a subsidy.

Substitute the word MAGA for crony capitalist, and your statement is 100% correct.
As far as I can tell, crony capitalists aren't confined to any one political ideology. They will swing whichever way the wind is blowing, pardon the pun.

[chuckChuck]

And the crony capitalist fossil fuel industry lap up the subsidies, low royalty rates, and incentives and ignore the hidden costs and hardly ever pay for the clean up costs!

But you guys are pretty sure that its only the renewable sector that gets tax credits and subsidies? LOL

Blinded by your willful ignorance, misinformation and ideology?

[shtferbrains]

Do you mean tax credits or subsidies using money collected from taxpayers?

[chuckChuck]

Tax credits are subsidies. And farmers get direct subsidies as well. But subsidies to renewable energy? Never! LOL

How do you spell hippo crits?

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Substitute the word MAGA for crony capitalist, and your statement is 100% correct.
As far as I can tell, crony capitalists aren't confined to any one political ideology. They will swing whichever way the wind is blowing, pardon the pun.

Pun is funny.

Listened to a U-Tube farmer who filled out the Biden-Harris REAP papers for a cost shared grain dryer for his farm. Project was approved, and then payment halted by Trump. Bought for electrical efficiency. Cost was $300,000. Claimed that if he did not receive the government grant, it would not wreck him financially. Asked by subscribers if he voted MAGA, and he said that he did, as did most of his area. Said that if he didn't take the subsidy, other farmers around him would, and that would put him at a disadvantage to his competing neighbours in ability to pay land rent, Some logic to that, but I think he could have said that all farms have different break even points that don't signal out blame to one sector of a cost sheet.

At any rate, my thought was, he had "a bird in the hand, done deal", and he and his area went for "two birds in the bush", and should have known they were going to get burned. Other thing on his mind may have been, if he was sincere about accepting a subsidy, and didn't get it, his competition would also likely not get theirs either.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

That is what would be called a level playing field. That's all I ask for.

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They have a machine for that, but some of us are not permitted to use it. Not talking about a colt revolver, either.

[shtferbrains]

Tax credits are subsidies. And farmers get direct subsidies as well. But subsidies to renewable energy? Never! LOL

How do you spell hippo crits?

Actually Chuck, subsidies doesn't seem to be PC anymore.
I think it is now "funding"?
Funding would be like the Battery plants received to start construction in Ontario and Quebec.
They had no tax credit to collect because they never paid any tax as they were start ups?
Maybe you can give an example of funding you have received recently?